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Post by emory on Aug 19, 2019 10:05:57 GMT
I there anybody out there who is actually on our side campaigning for legalisation or controlled use of proper meds that might actually save lives? Ppeople are committing suicide in this country regularly because they cant go on, when there is medication out there that could help them. The doctors and medical professionals are so scared of losing their careers because of what the rest of the world thinks that they are WILLING to let people suffer endlessly and eventually take their own lives instead of helping.
I dont know if any of you are aware, but there is raw unskewed unbiased data right there on the internet about drugs that if used correctly could virtually CURE ALL OR NEARLY ALL SYMPTOMS for quite a lot of us and potentially give thousands of us our first chance at a real life. This is not a trick. I work with data as an engineer, and all the data is right there on the net.
Lets stop being scared of these drugs and work together to make doctors stop being scared of these drugs. IN THE CONTEXT OF ADHD THESE DRUGS ARE NOT THE DEVIL OR DESTROYERS OF LIVES OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU HAVE HEARD, THEY ARE JUST CHEMICALS PEOPLE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. We give people opiate morphine out like candies and methodone to addicts and god knows what to who knows who and everyone is fine with that. this has gone on long enough now.
There is medicine in the world that most people are scared of and hardly anyone ever gets to try, but those who have tried it almost all say the same thing: Its the best med possible for this condition and is like a night and day difference from all others and should be tried first. They are almost all throwing around words like miracle and cure and holy grail. they describe it giving them the courage to live again.
We need to campaign for our right to be treated and for our chance to live normal lives.
Anyone who has an open mind and would like me to point to the information on the net just let me know here and come and have a chat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:18:40 GMT
What did you have in mind?
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Post by emory on Aug 20, 2019 10:51:36 GMT
Medications like dexamphetamine. In the forms that do not have all the other stuff in them that give you anxiety and jitteryness and all the side affects you do not want. I cant explain all here but the brain chemistry and how it is affected by the medication all makes perfect sense to me. Dexedrine used to help thousands of people and now if you can even get anything its probably elvanse which is a mix of stuff. Why are the professionals surprised when they give you a mix of two chemicals of which only one helps and then wonder why you get anxiety and jitters. Its OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE IS DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ADHD people need Dopamine to make the synapses fire because we have a defficiency, we dont need stuff that affects Adrenaline or Cortizone or the Acetyl Coline system. Some Amphetamines give you Dopamine, and some affect all that other stuff. How hard is that for doctors to understand? If you read the reviews of all medication for ADHD on the internet you can see a clear correlation of exactly what I'm saying. The medications that work the best are the most controversial because they are the purest and strongest. They are the most feared because the fact that they are strong and pure makes them get people more high if they are used recreationally and makes them more addictive if used recreationally. That IS NOT a good enough reason for ADHD sufferers to have to suffer endlessly. Dont hate the messenger but go to www.drugs.com/comments/methamphetamine/desoxyn.html and look at the reviews. its the strongest and purest and most feared of them all and just look at the ratings and reviews and what it has done for the few that get to try. dont hate me I'm just pointing it out.
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Post by jamieg on Aug 20, 2019 19:32:32 GMT
I'm not quite sure what exactly your point is, but looking at the heading of the thread:
If something is banned then it's probably for a good reason so no, people with adhd shouldn't be taking banned substances.
With regards to controlled medication then it's already available via prescription after diagnosis.
The only drug I know of that 'could virtually CURE ALL OR NEARLY ALL SYMPTOMS' is either on the tv show Limitless or something that Dr McCoy would have in his bag.
I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but I personally don't need a cure because I'm not ill.
Are you referring to a specific drug?
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Post by emory on Aug 21, 2019 6:49:37 GMT
I would never dream of saying you have an illness. please don't think that. I know some people manage their ADHD but the harsh fact is that most are suffering terribly. The people who regulate ADHD treatment and the medications that go with it honestly do not know enough about the condition or the medication. And no, you are wrong, virtually no treatment available for me at all in UK let alone medication. I wait years just for an appointment and then the doctors are clueless. I know you will all disagree with my view but if you visit the link in my second post and read the reviews and the ratings of Desoxyn, and then look elsewhere on the net about all other evidence you cannot ignore facts. Yes I know its Methamphetamine, Im quite aware of that but just read the reviews. Its known to have extraordinary mental health benefits anyway and turns out every single person who has had it who genuinely has ADHD has had relief from vitually ALL symptoms including Co morbid disorders with little to no side affects. If you want to tell me its crazy addictive from the outset and way stronger than anything and will turn you into a crazy nutjob addict, please go and do some research on what it ACTUALLY does at therapeutic doses first. you will find no evidence of it causing any harm to anyone whatsoever over any length of time. By the way I have never been dependant on any substance, I have no criminal record, a college qualification, a job and am a model citizen. Sorry if its not what you want to hear and you are not able to be open minded about this but Methamphetamine is unquestionably a superior medicine for ADHD and this will be proven more and more as time goes on. People are happy to be given opiate morphine at the hospital, its in the same class but it isn't heroin is it? and it helps people doesn't it? so whats the difference. Read the reviews, link in post above.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 22:59:40 GMT
I could probably do it but you can't take on something like this half-arsed. It would have to be full time.
Who would fund it?
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Post by emory on Aug 24, 2019 9:42:05 GMT
I just found out recently there is quite a lot of action happening currently. check out my other post on the All Party Parlimentary Group that was set up last year by Jo Platt. donate to the group. Thats a real way you can help now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 14:53:18 GMT
I know what you mean because why does it seem ADHD cannot be seen without skepticism and that a person with ADHD may require a controlled medication? It seems a lot of red tape or biases to overcome before, during and after treatment for some people, which reduces the accessibility to treatments that Americans have.
Change takes time for example just because equality exists in law does not mean prejudice is an ignorance that cannot echo into other generations and can be fed on by the media. I do not think an MP is going to change how ADHD is seen anytime soon. We also have many people like Louis Theroux who do documentaries about America's medicated Kids and offer more of an entertainment show than facts because documentaries like this seem more provocative and I think where we have a poor/incomplete education system which means people cannot tell the difference with a documentary dramatisation without being able to process information they are given to produce critical opinions or detect sensationalism. You probably even know some people who watch Netflix documentary and think they have completely understood the food industry, cancer treatment or if they are really foolish ancient aliens. The documentaries can make you think you have been completely informed, however while they can be eye opening they can often be misleading. I think this principle can also be seen in the sensationalism of news stories.
I do think as awareness grows with time that things will improve surrounding ADHD acceptance. I do not believe that Journalists or media outlets are solely responsible for ADHD awareness, but it can be a major influence and prevent the adoption of ADHD by individuals. I also suspect that this has also played apart in discrimination I have personally received.
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