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Post by jasper on Mar 21, 2013 13:32:11 GMT
I been watching this med for awhile and I'm really interested in trying it.Would I be able to ask for this from my Psych? Is it officially launched now?
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Post by Curtis on May 8, 2013 15:41:13 GMT
Is it officially launched now? Yup, it's definitely available in the UK now, except that they've decided to give it a different name here. Not sure why though. EU = Elvanse North America = Vyvanse Brazil = Venvanse
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Post by vtez on Jul 22, 2013 21:37:26 GMT
Hello.
I took my first done of Elvanse (Vyanase).
It was really great. It was my first ADHD treatment ... life was so remarkably different. I wanted to celebrate so I had a very little bit of wine, and that reacted quite badly with it, and made me fill ill and afraid of getting a stroke.
I will make sure to stay away from alcohol in the future when taking that, and I think it might have been an especially adverse reaction because I took it for the first time.
Regardless, fantastic drug. It is the only one I have tried at the moment, but I am going to keep taking it to see how things turn out.
I had some worries about getting a nose bleed... I don't want to haemmorage on this stuff and I know that aderall has caused a lot of stroke deaths in the USA (although a small fraction of the number people prescribed it).
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Post by Kathymel on Jul 22, 2013 21:39:39 GMT
Hi there. Glad your first med has been a success. Do keep us posted on your progress. x
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Post by vtez on Jul 23, 2013 11:26:04 GMT
I looked through the side effects: euphoria, paranoia, insomnia. That's those checked off!
It's the second day and the initial effect seems to have worn off. I'm not hyper at all, which it made me extremely so on the first day. I am sure it is too early to be sure, but I think the dose will need to be upped (I am on 30 now) as I still fidget a bit and can't focus totally (although it is substantially easier than before!) and I am quite a bit less lethargic.
How does one become a God??
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Post by JJ on Jul 23, 2013 12:32:25 GMT
I looked through the side effects: euphoria, paranoia, insomnia. That's those checked off! ? Hi, glad you've had some positive responses so far I was just wondering about the paranoia though ? Xx
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Post by vtez on Jul 23, 2013 19:15:43 GMT
I went out for dinner with my mum afterwards, after my first dose at 2.30, and I was really hyper and active. I drank a bit of alcohol (two sips of wine) at about 7, which sent me spiraling. I had a bit of blood in my nose so I thought I might have a stroke, and I was quite scared and worried.
I contacted my psychiatrist who advised me that alcohol has a potentating effect; I tried MDMA at university once (a large amount) and I was really paranoid, worried for a while after.
I have had a full day of experience today uninterrupted by any issues, although I didn't get any sleep last night. At 8 I took it, and then from about 9 until 3 I was alert and active and I got stuff done in those 6 hours that I have been putting off for weeks and would have taken me days to do. I didn't feel lazy or think of making excuses not to do it. After that I started coming down and became rather irritable, clenching or grinding my teeth, being very insecure and unconfident and by 8 I am back to my ADHD self. The psychiatrist said that Elvanse extends the period to 12 hours but all that seems to happen is that the period of effect is 6 hours and afterwards the come down is extended.
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Post by JJ on Jul 23, 2013 19:33:19 GMT
Thanks for reply.... The 'paranoia' you describe was certainly something I felt a bit of when first trying stims - I think it's probably normal - cos of being a bit concerned how they'll affect you, the drs being uber cautious about everything, and being so focussed on the tinest differences in you etc to gauge what's happening to you..... When you said paranoia I had visions of you having maxed out on tin foil to keep the aliens from detecting you Sounds like its been v good for procrastination then.... How long did it take for your mood to change for the worse?
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Post by vtez on Jul 23, 2013 20:14:42 GMT
Very abruptly. I was talking to a friend who was being very annoying and I was fine. Then about 15 minutes later I spoke to my mum who was being very annoying and I felt very irritated.
Are you on Elvanse or considering taking it?
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Post by Kathymel on Jul 23, 2013 20:24:53 GMT
How does one become a God?? You just need to talk a lot.
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Post by JJ on Jul 23, 2013 21:22:27 GMT
I'm feeling a bit dissatisfied with mph at the moment so just trying to find out more about everything.... Also just curious in general how people feel on these drugs - find it fascinating all the different experiences - subtle and major ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 18:54:44 GMT
Pro tip: don't read the side effects. On anything I've never had any of those side effects either. Lucky is my middle name!
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Post by Kathymel on Jul 24, 2013 22:07:58 GMT
Pro tip: don't read the side effects. On anything I've never had any of those side effects either. Lucky is my middle name! I only ever read the side-effects list to check if what I think I'm suffering from is on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 22:16:21 GMT
Makes sense I'd rather not know plus, my stuff seldom seems to match other people's stuff for anything... or maybe, I like to believe I'm a special snowflake
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Post by Kathymel on Jul 24, 2013 23:00:00 GMT
... or maybe, I like to believe I'm a special snowflake I don't think there is anyone here who would disagree with you, Sweetie!
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Post by vtez on Jul 27, 2013 0:08:54 GMT
Can Vyanase be mixed with supplements? Vitamin d, omega 3, multivitamins (including C - I have heard this cancels it out), grapeseed extract, gingko balboa?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 0:32:49 GMT
I think the citrus stuff negating bio-availability is related to MPH anecdotes?
Have you come across any for elvanse?
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Post by vtez on Jul 27, 2013 7:39:16 GMT
Vitamin C seems to negate it, as does anything that makes the ph of the stomach (?) more acidic. I thought it was digested in the intestines, but I've read people saying orange juice cancels it out. Maybe I'll start drinking that to go to sleep.
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Post by vtez on Jul 27, 2013 8:00:42 GMT
Some people are reporting that a full, proteiny and fatty breakfast increases vyanase strength and duration.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 9:50:35 GMT
Interesting. It's not supposed to be affected by gut PH so much as I think I had this problem on Concerta. Mind you, I hardly ever drink fruit juice.
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Post by vtez on Jul 28, 2013 4:02:29 GMT
I am wrong about the strength, the fattiness only increases the duration.
Exercise definitely acts as a trigger (at least for me), as it raises blood alkalinity.
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Post by vtez on Jul 29, 2013 13:50:36 GMT
OK today is probably going to be my last dose of Vyvanse unless something radically changes.
On the first two days it worked, but since then it has just been a horrible experience.
I just feel bad on it. It comes and goes in waves, it runs out after a few hours and then returns with a vengeance in the middle of the night (without giving any focus or hyperactivity reducing benefits).
I took a break from it yesterday because my doctor for some odd reason advised me to double the dose after 3 days if it wasn't working. That didn't help and it made me overdosed, so I took a break and the results after that break have been even worse. After doing exercise last night and having a proteiny breakfast today, I just feel angry and like crying or punching something. I took it over an hour ago.
When I am not on the drug I have difficulty breathing, and I am really angry and unsociable when I am not on it. The extended comedown of Vyvanse, when it worked, made me groggy and feel sleepy and tired and made me clench my mouth really hard, but focus and hyperactivity issues only slowly increased.
I am really disappointed at this stage. Does anybody have any advice? When I am not on the drug I am even lazier and less focused than I was when I wasn't getting treatment for ADHD, and when I am on the drug I can focus better but my motivation doesn't really change, and that's when it works. I am on my 7th dose now and the side effects really seem to be kicking into gear.
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Post by vtez on Jul 29, 2013 15:42:35 GMT
Not feeling nearly as awful. That awfulness subsided after about 45 minutes, but I spoke to my psychiatrist who said that this was an unusual reaction and that I should stop it until I see him next week.
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Post by vtez on Jul 30, 2013 0:06:40 GMT
Based on some research, looks like I am having a mild allergic reaction to Vyvanse. Apparently the reactions are rarely to amphetamines themselves and usually due to some extraneous element, and I don't remember having this reaction when I tried a huge amount of MDMA once at university.
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Post by andyp on Dec 22, 2013 17:30:58 GMT
So is it still uncontrolled in the UK? I think it's still uncontrolled, but based on this which is from ACMD, it has been recommended that the government made it a controlled substance. This was from back in September, and I don't know if they did/will or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 20:40:30 GMT
MIMS says
Lisdexamfetamine is currently classified as a prescription-only medicine (POM) in the UK. However, the drug’s legal status is scheduled for review by the Home Office and prescribers should be aware that it may be reclassified as a Schedule 2 Controlled Drug (CD) in the future. In the interim, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society is advising pharmacists to treat lisdexamfetamine as if it were a Schedule 2 CD.
I'd have a very large bet that it'll become a Schedule 2 - misuse is unlikely by an individual but there were concerns that there was potential for conversion to dex.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 17:06:26 GMT
Thought I'd ad my two-penn'orth on Elvanse.
I switched from dex to Elvanse a few months ago. I loved dex for its mood-stabilising effects, but it didn't really fix my lack of focus and concentration, even at 20mg doses. More importantly, though, I was forever forgetting to take my second dose until too late in the day, and when taken late, it really screwed with my sleep.
I asked to try Elvanse because of its extended release characteristics.
It's ok, I think. For me, it feels like something between MPH and dex - I'm on 70mg now, and I reckon slightly more focused, but also slightly more anxious. It does give me a decent working day's worth of medicatedness on one dose.
Worryingly, though, it definitely has a more pronounced impact on my cardiovascular system. My paroxysmal AF, which has been well-controlled with flecainide throughout my nearly three years on stims, has started to give me occasional flutters. This could, of course, simply be coincidental - my cardio consultant warned that it was a progressive condition. But Elvanse may be accelerating that progression. My BP has also been raised to borderline 'high'. I get a few more headaches, and if I take it on an empty stomach, as I used to do with my dex, it makes me feel queasy and slightly crampy.
Jury's out, for me. I think 70mg is a bit too high, even though technically, it's lower than the 3x20mg dex regime I was on - but the step down to 50mg is too much. Ideally I'd like 60mg, but that would involve taking 2x30mg, which I was told by my prescribing psych was not possible. I'm going to ask for a second opinion on that one. I'm not terrifically happy with my somewhat higher anxiety/stress levels, but I was getting pretty stressed with my IR regime, so that's just a trade off; and I'm worried that it might cause a stroke, which would not be great. But it is keeping me medicated throughout my day, which is an essential, for me.
I'll come back with an update in another wee while.
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Post by andyp on Jan 5, 2014 1:08:01 GMT
I have now stopped Elvanse, and returned to dex, on advice of my Doctor. I actually found the Elvanse made the lack of focus worse, not better, and was causing anxiety. I felt like the extended release wasn't working, and was not effective most of the day at all, and then suddenly shooting the full dose into my system in one shot! I was oniginally on 50mg, and then put onto 100mg.
The dex had its side effects (stomach cramping mainly, which is the reason I was put onto the Elvanse) but as long as I take it on a full stomach, I can manage with it. Just need to sort out the correct dosage, as 20mg not effective, so I'm waiting to hear back from the doctor what I should try next.
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Post by Moses1990 on Feb 4, 2014 20:34:41 GMT
Hi all,
I was prescribed elvanse 30 mg a month ago, however, as of today my body has been constantly jerking (also know as motor ticks). This has occurred roughly about 10 times today, with each tick lasting about 2 seconds. Should I be worried? Is this a common side effect? Importantly, I should not I didn't take my medication today. I dont want to believe this is a sign of dependency especially since I've always skipped a day between my medications. Any substantial advise will be appreciated.
Many thanks
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Post by Novo on Mar 6, 2014 22:22:11 GMT
I think the citrus stuff negating bio-availability is related to MPH anecdotes? Have you come across any for elvanse?
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