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Post by rhiannon on Mar 30, 2015 14:25:19 GMT
Hey all, So I have a relative that I believe to be suffering from generalised anxiety disorder. I was hoping perhaps some here that either suffer from it or have in the past could shed some light on the best way to go about treating the problem, ideally without medication or therapy. I believe it is about retraining the mind to not send the anxiety signals for the wrong stimuli through a process of desensitisation. Does anyone have any personal accounts of this method working and if so how long did it take and did it work in the end? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:33:03 GMT
Has the relative been diagnosed or seen by a doctor? Why do you say ideally without medication or therapy? Does the relative want to be treated?
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Post by manson88 on Mar 30, 2015 15:33:51 GMT
I have both disorders, Social and general. I have been through cbt which helps. I'm on pregabalin 75mg twice daily . Was on venlafaxine which caused me to eat like a horse.
I'm on chlorpromazine at night to try help from rumination which is difficult to stop.
Mirtazapine, was good for anxiety but it was like venlafaxine it made me eat as well.
I'm on strattera and I think it's helped as well.
I recommend reducing your sugar intake and caffeine. The orther thing that I think works is a exercise and a good night's sleep..
Simply taking to a friend can also help.
Hope this helps. Manson88
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Post by rhiannon on Mar 30, 2015 18:47:40 GMT
Yes they are diagnosed with anxiety and depression although now that my ADHD has come to light It is looking more likely to be anxiety and ADHD. Yes they want to be treated but have tried both therapy and meds in the past to no avail so looking for an alternative. Thanks manson, how do the meds work to help your anxiety? Sadly the anxiety is causing mega issues with sleep for them which isn't helping being constantly fatigued. Thanks
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Post by manson88 on Mar 30, 2015 23:12:16 GMT
Well I find that the meds put the brakes on my head.. Not so rumination but keep a lid on it near enough a ceiling I you understand.
Iike I went 6 months with a break from anti anxiety meds.. This time last year till August. Only the odd chlorpromazine at night.
I had to go back on medication cause they were keeping my emotions under control as well.
The scary thing was I ended up in a situation were the outcome could've been tragic & the way it on folded out it scared me. So in my opinion it's much easier being medicated...
Cause if you have a trigger, then you have a bout of anxiety, then extreme anxiety. Then it's like a free fall! What is gonna stop me?
If you can think of sliding down a mountain in the snow with a climbing axe to stop you?
More times than enough it's been a strong course of diazepam that has stopped me .
Then the depression after it...
Then the shame ...
You need to go and have a chat with your gp or CMHT and discuss your options..
You may also benefit from an anxiety course to teach you how to live with it.
As they tell everyone, we all have anxiety we all need anxiety it's what drives us.
That's why so many people start the process of meds feel a bit better then quit. Cause it relives them then they find that they back to were they came from..
But the most important thing is that contact with the gp cause, he is your access to services.
Hopefully this helps.. . Manson88
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Post by rhiannon on Mar 30, 2015 23:50:35 GMT
Yes, thanks Manson, that's pretty much what I expected the medication would do. I can see in a situation where you have no choice that medication would be a good idea e.g. you have to work to keep a roof over your head. But in an otherwise non pressured environment would desensitisation be a more appropriate long term solution to the problem rather than medication which as you say only solves the problem when you take them? I personally no longer suffer with anxiety, I did as a child/teen but I have pretty much overcome it, I believe, through an internal somewhat unconscious process of desensitisation to the point that I no longer experience it. Unfortunately this isn't all it's cracked up to be because as you say anxiety is what drives us and I suppose I have lost that drive to a large extent. I continue to experience the same thought patterns that I always have which are generally catastrophic but instead of an anxiety response it just plays out in my head and I begin to engage with the world again once my attention is drawn to something else. In a rather perverse way I actually now kind of revel in those moments of catastrophic thinking and enjoy watching them play out in my head - another not so good effect of desensitisation I suppose. Unfortunately I have little memory of how exactly I went about doing this, I just remember before with anxiety and after without anxiety. That is why I am hoping someone else out there might have had a similar experience but have been more aware throughout the process and may be able to shed some light onto it so I can give advice to my relative about how to do the same thing. Even though I experience drawbacks from it they are by no means comparable to the suffering of continuing to live with anxiety. Obviously this is just my experience and my opinion of it, I am certainly not trying to belittle anxiety in any way and after reading this back I realised it might come across like that so know that it is not how it is intended! Thanks
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Post by manson88 on Mar 31, 2015 7:21:20 GMT
Anxiety is a disorder, full stop.
My experience of it may be different from someone else. Who just couldn't leave the house..
Were I would be the person who would type something on hear then delete it. Lol (social anxiety)
Or would get anxious about a situation where I could see something happening or I may think it's worse than what is. (general anxiety) Or a sense of dread..
As it's the levels of what I'm experiencing. It affects, muscle tension, stomach funny, weak knees, . Not the first time I have stopped the car on the motorway to be sick. There's 99 different symptoms of anxiety!
Some are obvious some aren't.
It's were it takes me to. It causes me to ruminate to the point it crushes me. The point where the self esteem goes then I'm struggling with some of the bigger issues in life. Suicide.
But I have seen that a panic/anxiety attack for me can & has lasted up to 3 weeks. Which is exhausting and crippling. I always have had anxiety but it never really manifested big time ontil my 30s. But was causing issues when I was younger.
I have been trying to stop ruminating during the day by switching my mind to things that drives me and brings me pleasure.
Example, I'm a passionate about cycling and healthy eating, and now I try ruminate about it. Like were to go, whether to train indoors or outdoors, planning my food, what routes etc etc.
Nearly to the point where I would talk myself out of doing anything lol. But have worked hard at the point of doing something then that turning into something that I was planning on lol. Procrastinating probly as well.
Read anything about adhd none medical treatment. They will tell you clean diet, vigorous exercise and support from family and friends.
So this is were diet and exercise meets/mental wellbeing. For this is the corner stone. If I don't get out on my bike I'm climbing the walls lol.
Medication strattera and pregabalin are helping me also. Support from family are very important as well they play their part to.
Manson88
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Post by manson88 on Apr 1, 2015 21:28:53 GMT
rhiannonHere's a nice wee diagram of anxiety. Enjoy. Manson88
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 14, 2015 0:18:31 GMT
Anxiety had been the bain of my existence for the past 15+ years. I'd tried everything CBT different med's, most of which I'd build a tolerance to quickly and then find the day I didn't take them then I'd be f**ked! More so then if I had never taken them in the first place. Then you couldn't just come off these drugs you'd have to spend months weaning yourself off them, which was even more traumatic. I decided thsee sri's were doing more harm then good, plus I've found out there's also a nasty side effect that will stay with men forever (I've not found concrete evidence for it but all roads point to ssri's being the cause! It's not good guys takes the fun out if things)
In the end I just decided to live with the constant feeling of dread and turning round and going back every time I came up against one of the giant imaginary brick walls that littered my paths. Luckily for me I had responsibilities for others so couldn't give into it or else I could have easily become aggro phobic or something.
Anyway I've said this countless times on here and I'll keep saying till all the co-morbid anxiety people start looking into it.
L-theanine, L-theanine, L-theanine!!! Honestly people if it wasn't for this stuff I'd be the shell of a person I was a few years back. My anxiety has been reduced by easily 90%. The stuff has no known side affects no harmful drug interactions apart from with med's that lower your blood pressure as this does that to. You can never build a tolerance to it (I've been taking it for a couple of years now and St the same dose). Doesn't make you drowsy like the benzo's that get pushed on you. It's even meant to increase dopamine levels (slightly).
Anyway people thinking of this stuffs so great why doesn't the world know about it (conspiracy theory time!) Because if everyone knew about it a lot drug companies would lose billions, absolutely billions and billions, I dare say even put some out of business!
I urge all anxiety sufferer's go forth and embrace this stuff as you'll never look back and if you do it will to look back and think "how did I ever manage before without this and how much different things could have been if I had come across it earlier!"
The only downside to the miracle of L-theanine (and this will only apply to me or very few people on here) is that my recreational drug use has increased considerably! As I've been a recreational user since over 20 years And what had limited the use to once or twice a month was the comedown and inevitable crippling anxiety that would follow the next day. Where I'd have to hide away from the world (even my own fanily) till all the drugs were out my system. But as the the l-theanine has pretty much killed off this side effect...The flood gates have kinda opened up! But luckily I have even more responsibilities and no time to Myself to even wipe my....or things could have got well outta hand!
Anyway many of you may have probably been on holiday, got married, had kids, rebuilt the kutty sark out of matchsticks, sailed around the world on a raft made from pound land rubber ducks etc during the time I've been writing this and may have missed all the gaff in the middle. So I'll summarise ...
Anxiety killer = L-THEANINE
P.s I take 600 mg ever morning and it does me fine. Some of the packets will say not to take more then 200 my a day. But according to the FDA you'd have to take kilos of this stuff before you can OD on it!
P.P.s anyone still awake or half way across the Atlantic on a bright yellow raft?
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Post by JJ on Apr 14, 2015 12:34:28 GMT
Anyway people thinking of this stuffs so great why doesn't the world know about it (conspiracy theory time!) Because if everyone knew about it a lot drug companies would lose billions, absolutely billions and billions, I dare say even put some out of business! Far from going out of business, drug companies own the supplement market and they do make billions - on top of many times more billions from their pharmaceuticals. In 2008, Ben Goldacre (Bad Science)wrote: A 2015 google shows: Merck owns Seven Seas, Natures Best and Halib Orange Pfizer owns Centrum Glaxo Smith Kline / Novartis own Scott's Bayer owns One-a-Day and Sanatogen Holland and Barratt is owned by NBTY, who is owned by the Carlyle Group, who are the largest private equity firm in the world and own at least 2 pharmaceutical companies. Proctor and Gamble own New Chapter Vitamin and Dietary Supplements Vifor Pharma owns Equazen Eye Q I'm not saying this stuff doesn't work for you, just that your money is going into the same pocket as if you were taking a prescribed medication.
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 15, 2015 0:51:13 GMT
JJ, I had no idea how closely linked 'big pharma' was to the supplement/vitamin side of things, I honestly and obviously naively thought they were two separate entities on the whole. So thanks for the insight.
My whole thing was just based on this one thing, the l-theanine And not the entire health supplements market. My comment on them losing billions was based on the l-theanine powder I buy from a smaller company, off of ebay. Anyway a 50g bag will cost me about £10 and last about 3-4 months. Buy 50g worth of it from H&B and it'll cost 10x as much.
Anyway 3-4 months of those nasty ssri's or other chems from the big guys must cost ridiculously more (super vague pricing, (if you could even call it that) really not done any proper research, just know a pharmacist who used to tell me how much certain things cost, which again I was shocked to hear the prices as I only ever saw the standard prescription charge). But I do believe if all the people with anxiety turned to this on mass and bought how I do then big pharma would lose out big time with this, even billions like I mentioned. Maybe not go bust (that was probably a bit sensationalist from me!). As obviously like you've said they have other income streams and stuff. But they'd definitely get hurt on this front.
Anyway I think this might be going off topic slightly and making me sound like some anti capitalist looking to hurt big companies, which I'm Def not. I really just wanna get people away from the terrible sh1t they may be getting fed to deal with their anxiety and hope people get the positive outcome I've had And am still having.
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Post by JJ on Apr 15, 2015 1:59:48 GMT
Nothing wrong with being an anti-capitalist looking to hurt big companies mc1250 - I'd pretty much put myself in that category It's sooo late, I've got to be up soooo early and have just spent an hour looking up L Theanine! I've read enough (along with what you said) to think it's definitely worth a try. I'm too tired to link the research articles, but there's several in PubMed for anyone interested. Also, as well as anti-anxiety effects, I equally read that some studies have shown it to improve sleep In ADHDers as well as improve some aspects of concentration and attention and increase the alpha waves (which is a good thing for us) and improve alertness. It appears to have an effect on several neurotransmitters, the one which interested me the most was GABA and glutamate (because of sleep issues). It seems it's most beneficial for concentration and focus when taken with caffeine. Anyway, it's definitely piqued my interest and I'm going to get some. I saw the recommended max dose was 200mg/ day but that the FDA found that up to 1200 mg/day wasn't associated with any adverse effects (with certain conditions etc contraindicated at all levels), So I'm curious why you take 600mg per day? Did you try lower doses without effect? What happens if you take higher doses? And last question is how soon before I should feel some effect?
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 15, 2015 18:30:37 GMT
JJ - thanks for looking into it as it means a lot to me that someone is At least considering my advice and hopefully may get some benefit from it's use.
I will be answering your questions but not now as I gotta prepare for an interview for tomorrow. and I know what I'm like I could end up typing a story and not doing any prep which is more important right now.
So I shall get back to you by Fri definitely. Just keep reading up on it for the time being as well.
All the best and catch cha later.
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Post by manson88 on Apr 15, 2015 19:41:54 GMT
I can honestly say that I'm interested in l-theanine myself.
I fully understand the reason why you don't want the anti- anxiety medication. It also depends what stage your at in your life.
Personally I'm married with two lovely kids. Me and my wife always has had a good bedroom relationship.
But with the medication that I'm on there's is pleasure still to be had. I may have to work a bit harder sometimes but you have to weight it up.
Strattera has an affect on your performance as well. But like as what I said you decide what you what.
There's the orther side of things as well cost. I have to manage money for my interests /hobbies /sport.. Etc a prescription from your gp is free.
I would like to give l-theanine a go to complement & my help my current meds. I think it's a credit to you that you tried l-theanine. You also researched it well & have had a good experience on it.
I was on many different antidepressants and have had various issues on them. I stopped venlafaxine last year cause of weight gain. But couldn't function being on nothing.
I'm now on pregabalin. It has been great controls the anxiety and no real issues on it.
Thanks for sharing your experience by the way, it's people like make the forum.
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 22, 2015 1:11:40 GMT
JJ - That whole "i'll get back to you by fri definately" thing, well....i should really know me by now and should have known that good intention was all it was going to be! Especially with my chaotic life right now!
Anyway to answer your questions,
Dosage! Why 600mg well i did try the recommended 200 at first and didn't really notice anything, then while reading other peoples accounts, i read some guy on an anxiety forum saying he took 600 in the morning and night so tried it and hey presto seemed to be right dose for me (without the night time dose)
What happens if i take higher doses, so far nothing really, i mean nothing adverse at least. Because sometime when i'm on the MP the anxiety symtoms seem to kick in so i'll take another 400mg now and again. The most i've probably taken over 24 hours is approx, rough guess 1200 - 1600mg and not had any weirdness or side afects.
When will you notice the affects - after about half an hour. It's something that crosses the blood - brain barrier very easily. I mean if i don't take it first thing in the morning i do notice i'm a lot more ratty, by that i mean getting easily annoyed and obviously anxious. So after you've taken it it should only take about 30 mins to ick in.
I mean at the beggining when i started taking it i had no expectations and wasn't expecting much so didn't really think about it but the situations where i'm most anxious like driving i found i was completely calm and even to a point of enjoying driving. Because before it, i absolutely hated driving as i was so anxious that i would crash or stall etc i used to think "how can people enjoy driving!" but now i understand what it's like to go onto the road like a normal person (without anxiety) and yeah it's good. Motorways used to be incredibly traumatic for me, passing lorries, accidently going over into the 80mph zone would scare the shit out of me and i'd start tensing up and panicking and i'd be sweating the whole route gripping the steering wheel so tightly my hands would ache by the end of the journey and you know what, i don't get any of that now, infact now i get annoyed when i'm in the middle lane and people are holding up doing 70mph! So average speed nowadays for me is about 80 - 85. I would love to start going into the 100's but don't as i'm not really that skillful a driver, plus getting caught at a 100mph equals points and points equals prizes..... for the insurance comapnies that is!!
You mentioned in your research you came accross it as a alternative treatment for adhd and thats exactly how i came accross it but found although it helped with some of the adhd symtoms of easily getting annoyed and mood swings and stuff it's main impact was on anxiety, to be honest i can't really tell if it helps with the focus side of things(dopamine increase). But i'm not that bothered about that as much as i'm generally alot calmer.
Have you tried it yet? If so, how goes it?
Manson88 - mate the stuff really doesn't cost that much. Like i said i buy 50grams for £10 of the powder and that lasts me 3/4 months. I think it's even cheaper now. Go onto ebay and type in l-theanine powder as the capsules and tablets cost more.
So you're on strattera then and it's working for you then? When i was first diagnosed thats what i was given, i didn't really know what i t was at the time so went hoem and researched it before taking it and the moment i found out it was a NRI and it could take 6 weeks for it to start working i refused to take it. And also you mentioned about eating like mad on some of these drugs you've been on and when i look back at the time when i was on the sri's thats when i was at my fatest! Almost 13 stone when i should be 10 and a half max. and then i was in my 20's and more active. Once i stopped i think i came back to 11 ish. so there that. And now that i'm in my late 30's and a lot more lazier going on any of those things would probably lead to obesity for me.
The thing is i'd love you to give it a shot or anyone else for that matter but you're already on various other drugs and as i'm definately not qualified to be telling people to stop taking prescribed meds and go onto the l-theanine, i won't. But maybe speak to your doc or shrink about it. But chances are they might not know about it as my shrink didn't. He only started looking into after i told him about it and on the next meeting he did say from what he's read so far it does sound promising and said as it's seen as more of as a supplement then a well known treatment for anxiety he can't really pay it as much attention as i would like him to.
Whereas other countries like japan that don't really like all the stimulant meds and sri type things use it a lot more to treat adhd and anxiety, they're actually the first ones that found it an synthesised it ad put it a lot of there foods.
Anyway i believe we may have the first chapter of a book above so i'll end it here!
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Post by JJ on Apr 23, 2015 1:27:44 GMT
Completely forgot all about it til I just read your reply - I wondered why I've just had loads of spam emails from Holland and Barratt - I started looking up where I could get it the other day then got distracted... I've put it in my to do list now - and I'll report back any effects. Thanks for taking the time to write all that mc1250 - very helpful, and I'm going to give the info to my sister as she has bad anxiety with driving so what you said really rang a bell.
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Post by manson88 on Apr 23, 2015 5:32:38 GMT
I just want to say that it sounds very positive. I'm interested in also.
Was in with my gp on Friday and I even ran it by him.
He had that much knowledge about it that he had to Google it there and then in front of me. But seem interested also he also admitted to me that he has anxiety sleep issues.
I'm very fortunate to have a good relationship with him. My psychiatrist who is a much the same age is as open and down to earth as what the gp is.
My gp has suggested that I should say to the psychiatrist the next time I'm in with him.
The last time I was with the psychiatrist who seems to be a head chase, it was a 40 appointment with the last 10mins spent talking about cars!!
I'm going to check it out for sure but need get a few wee thing paid off first not don't have much money at the moment.
Thanks manson88.
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 23, 2015 16:51:41 GMT
JJ - the driving thing was one of my worst issues where I'd spend ages having a 'for and against' conversation in my head about whether to take the car or not even moat short journeys! Now i just get in the car and go (very rarely do I have to think about it)anyway glad that's behind me now.
Manson88 - to give it a bash you'd probably have to wean yourself off whatever your on now or can you just stop. But before taking my advice Google it till your fingers bleed! To be sure it's not just something that works for a couple of people. nearly all the user's account I found were positive maybe the odd one or two that said 'meh' but that was about it.
I mean I heard quite a good things about l-tyrosine which is meant to be a precursor to dopamine production which I had high hopes for, more then the l-theanine but just got headaches off the stuff!
Anyway guys you've just reminded I need to top up. So off to ebay. Thanks.
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Post by contrarymary on Apr 23, 2015 17:17:56 GMT
hi mc1250 and thanks for the lowdown ... after reading your experience and doing some research I ordered some from ebay, & 50g powder arrived chez moi this AM. i've divvied it up with a friend (feel as tho I'm dealing in White Powder!) and the experiment starts tomorrow...
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Post by JJ on Apr 23, 2015 17:43:09 GMT
I ordered mine last night after writing that post - was such a palava tho cos naturally forgot my PayPal password, had to go through all the verification stuff for them to send a new one - ended up taking 30 mins But, it's coming in a few days, so I shall be interested to see how it works and how you get on contrarymary x
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Post by contrarymary on Apr 23, 2015 18:08:42 GMT
my *only* hurdle now is working out how to *measure* 200mg.
I have a mechanical scale in 20g increments
Sigh
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Post by manson88 on Apr 23, 2015 18:12:25 GMT
I'm watching this thread unfolded I haven't time to post I will be on later
Dishes to do kids to get to bed! Lol
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Post by mc1250 on Apr 23, 2015 21:30:28 GMT
Contrarymary - yeah it looks as dodgey as hell doesn't it, a bag of white powder like that. So i thought if ever i went on holiday, it would be best to find the tablet form or else i could get held up at customs!!
With regards to how to get the dose right, you should have got a small scoop in the pack. Everytime i've bought the powder it has come with a 100mg scoop. So double check the packet that it wasn't in there. If not look on ebay to see who's selling them or if you want you can send me your address and i'll mail you one as i have 3 currently at home.
The way i do it is get a little bit of water in a glass then put six scoops into it and wait for it to disolve completely ( you can swirl it around to help it along) then add cordial and more water and take it with the other 6/7 vitamin pills i take every morning. Even had to invest in a pill box to speed things up in the morning.
Oh and JJ and contrarymary thanks for reminding me again, coz even though i said it last time i forgot straight after so after reading your posts now i thought let me order mine before i forget again, so ordered it then came back here to reply! i bought another 50g and 120 x 200mg caps. as sometimes it's just quicker to swallow a couple of tablets plus when i was at work taking some capsules out my draw rather then a bag of white powder wasn't going to get any funny looks!
I relly do hope you guys have the same positive, (life changing even) benefits i've got from it. My only worry is i've bigged it up so much it may be an anti climax for you. Plus i don't know how bad your anxiety was and how it affected you but for me not to have that constant feeling of doom, the fear of taking my kids anywhere even the park due to me thinking the worse case scenario of them getting hurt or something else bad happening, that thing where when anyone rang i became tense straight away expecting them to tell me something bad has happened and then sighing with relief when it wasn't, the constant pre-ocupation of turning any little incident and escalating into world war 3 in my head and making myself shake with rage, the automatic fight or flight gut wrenching feeling everytime i heard a horn beep, or someone shout and think was that to do with me, i mean for gods sake i even used to get if the doorbell went or if my bloody mobile rang....can you imagine living like that (some may do some might not) .....All pretty much gone (some of it comes back when i'm on MP or hungover but not as bad).
Anyway i really wish you all the best with it and please let me know how it goes as to be honest eveyone i come across i tell about this stuff and get ignored and had sort of given up telling people in the real world that is, but the cyber world, obviously i still am.
Good luck peeps!
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Post by jamie83 on May 3, 2015 19:31:50 GMT
If someone there wouldnt mind advising me here Id really appreciate it. I started Methylphenidate several weeks ago now and although ive seen great improvements in productivity and ability to methodically plan a group of tasks, I have this awful feeling when faced with the prospect of social engagements. I am normally quite socially anxious but this feeling of stress when expecting to have to talk to someone coherently is like what I imagine it is waiting to go out on stage at a music festival.. perhaps a little dramatic there! Is this something that goes away? Ive been titrating up for the last month and now Im at 60 mg per day. Anybody with any experience of this? Once Im in the conversation Im generally ok.. although Im analysing the conversation as it is happening which is not only confusing but also probably looks strange to the other person - I should probably write that bit off as paranoia, because, what the hell can I do about it anyway. Again, anybody else do that? Is that normal? So, sometimes I feel sluggish or muddy in the mind after a 20mg dose. Sometimes I get this shocking dropping feeling as I come down off the dose- this can happen as soon as 1.5 to 2hrs into the dose. Do both of these situations mean I need to take more to keep me medicated? And is the short acting time of 1.5 to 2hrs, instead of the advised 3-4hrs a common occurrence with anybody out there?
One more question, then ill leave you all alone! Ive read the maximum dosage is 60mg a day.. is that true?
Many thanks and big love.
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Post by contrarymary on May 3, 2015 22:33:49 GMT
hi jamie83 and welcome to the forum sorry i don't know the answers to your questions as i don't have experience with this drug. there are a fair few threads on this drug so the info you want is likely already around. only we post so much it's probably buried. In my experience you usually get more/quicker responses to if you post a new thread with a title that makes the subject clear (eg "I've got questions about methylphenidate" etc). then it'll grab people's attention and they will pop along to read it.. et voila! good luck
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Post by jamie83 on May 3, 2015 23:19:48 GMT
Ah, good tip! Ill do that. Thanks v much. J
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Post by mc1250 on May 10, 2015 20:30:06 GMT
Hi JJ, contrarymary.
Have you had any joy with the l-theanine at all?
It would be good to know if anyone else isgetting the same positive results from it as I am.
Thanks
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Post by manson88 on May 10, 2015 21:20:20 GMT
I got it! I have done the research bit the bullet and got some.
I went for the tablets. I started with 60 tablets 100mg £14.. It's near the best I could get. For tablets.
Bought on eBay and got it delivered to argos. This service is great you can get a message to your phone to say it's in your chosen store.
Got the tablets for convenience sake. It looks promising. I took 200mg with black coffee.
So tomorrow I'm trying this, strattera & pregabalin @ breakfast then about 9;15 I'm going to have my prework coffee & 200mg of l-theanine!
I took 200mg the same time as my strattera about 11,00 (I'm late today) with black coffee and pregabalin.
I was making the dinner about 12,00. I just felt a wee lift (adrenaline levels lifted) a wee buzz near enough lol tidy up the kitchen and went of on a frenzy, focus attention energy, oh boy some stuff!!
I'm wondering have you tried it with coffee? There's someone there on eBay selling it 2:1 (200mg of l-theanine to 100mg of l-theanine. Any of research I have done also supports using it with caffeine- Cupa coffee.
I'm impressed with it so far want to try and get it tweaked so it's no going to work out expensive. Example having not to buy every month and try to get the best stuff at the right price preference to tablets of course.
Was also thinking of just taking it on my flat days to lift me the days when I'm in a flat mood it would be great for that cause it works in the space of an hour.
Manson88
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Post by contrarymary on May 10, 2015 21:24:13 GMT
i need to get a flaming measure and then i might be able to take it accurately, regularly!
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Post by manson88 on May 10, 2015 21:30:52 GMT
Lol I keep them in the pocket of the car door. (I even keep a couple my strattera and pregabalin in the ashtray in case I forget.)
I'd look well with a bag of white powder on my lap weighing it out.
Capsules the way to go for that matter. Lol. Even if the powder is better value for money.
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