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Post by penolope on Mar 27, 2013 11:54:53 GMT
I've been trying to figure out for months whether my partner still wants to be with me. He moved in with me a few months ago, everything was great at first but now he's gone into one of his phases of being withdrawn and uncommunicative. He's said at various times that he's not sure about the relationship, whether we're right for each other, and he's obviously got some kind of doubts, but when I ask him about them in detail he talks about the circumstances, his relationship with my family, stress at work, worries about our future (I want to move eventually to live near my family, he's happy where he is) - anything but talking about how he actually feels about me. When I push him on that, all I can get out of him is that he's confused. Is it normal for people with ADHD to be this confused? Is he just being chicken and afraid to tell me that he's not in love with me any more, or maybe afraid to admit it to himself because he doesn't want to be on his own? I wonder if I should just pre-empt it by breaking up with him myself... but I don't want to throw away what we have if the real issue is that he's just confused but really loves me... but neither do I want to spend the rest of my life in this state of insecurity... Does counselling help? (I've given up encouraging him to try it)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 12:06:15 GMT
Yes. Too much to think about = think about nothing. Avoiding confrontation because it's another stress angle you don't need. Work stress is the killer. Most other things can be smoothed out eventually but work stress WILL fuck everything else up. It did for me. You sound a lot like my ex. She convinced herself I didn't love her. Maybe I wasn't right for her but I did love her. Is he medicated? The only thing you can do is be utterly helpful, loving, selfless and non-confrontational. Or call it a day and find yourself a 'normal' boyfriend
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Post by penelope on Mar 27, 2013 12:20:27 GMT
Nope, no medication. He tried it once (before we met) and didn't like it. I'm not convinced it would work anyway... he doesn't seem typical of ADHD adults, the stuff I read about people being critical, confrontational etc - he just withdraws and says nothing. (I think I'd rather he picked fights with me!) So it's hard to tell whether it's the ADHD, or the depression that seems to come and go, or just his personality. He says he finds it hard to verbalise his thoughts and feelings, which is part of the reason he doesn't communicate well. So I'm not sure if medication would do anything about that. I sympathise with your ex, and kind of admire her for going ahead and breaking up (sorry don't mean to sound harsh - just I wonder if I'm the one being chicken, sticking around hoping things will change...) I'm not very good at being selfless, I just get hurt and resentful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 12:42:22 GMT
There is no typical.
Being critical is more the happy side of things for me, bizarrely. I don't realise I'm criticising. You think you're helping; putting people on the right path. I certainly don't criticise to make people feel less of themselves.
Withdrawing is a stress reducer. You're a giant ball of stress to him. You probably see this as aloof, uncaring, lack of empathy, etc, etc.
I sympathise with her too. I probably put her through hell with 'my ways'.
If you can't be selfless it might be worth asking yourself what you're trying to get out of the relationship. Try and be guided by the bigger picture if you actually want to stay with him and don't let your own insecurities compound with his problems.
Maybe suggest he takes another look at the medication? You can't help someone who won't help themselves.
Best of luck.
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Post by claudhopper on Mar 27, 2013 20:59:09 GMT
A lot of it sounds like me in some relationships. Medication should help. Perhaps he should reconsider - maybe try another med. As Michael said if he won't help himself, there's little you can do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 2:44:03 GMT
There is no typical. Being critical is more the happy side of things for me, bizarrely. I don't realise I'm criticising. You think you're helping; putting people on the right path. I certainly don't criticise to make people feel less of themselves. Withdrawing is a stress reducer. You're a giant ball of stress to him. You probably see this as aloof, uncaring, lack of empathy, etc, etc. I sympathise with her too. I probably put her through hell with 'my ways'. If you can't be selfless it might be worth asking yourself what you're trying to get out of the relationship. Try and be guided by the bigger picture if you actually want to stay with him and don't let your own insecurities compound with his problems. Maybe suggest he takes another look at the medication? You can't help someone who won't help themselves. Best of luck. Corking post, Michael. It's generally unwise to comment on another's situation by drawing parallels with one's own experience - too many variables mean that despite superficial similarities, there can be profound differences. Having said that, I can't resist the temptation! ;D My OH can behave in the ways you describe - and Michael's thoughts on the sorts of things behind it are very insightful. It often comes down to each side having some kind of 'fight/flight' response and reacting to it. We've reached several 'crisis' points where we could have made different decisions, and ended up going our separate ways. Since we didn't split, does that mean we were lucky back then? Not as in trouble as we thought at the time? Making a fuss about nothing? What if we had survived one crisis, but not the second? Which was the 'right' outcome? Right the first time, wrong the second? Or wrong the first time? Stupid for plugging on when we should have called it a day? To be congratulated for our persistence? There is no right answer - the outcome is the outcome and we have to live with the decisions we make. i guess that I can only measure the quality of past decisions by looking at what I have today. I'm happy. I do believe we've got smarter about seeing the train wrecks when they're a long way off, raising the alarm so we can take action before it gets very panicky/stressful. I also believe we've got better at avoiding the wrecks entirely - i pay more attention to what the signals are telling me, and put my brakes on if I need to stop/head for a siding/go into reverse until the problem has passed. One great thing my OH has taught me, that has really helped me manage my insecurities and anxieties about how he feels about me, where we're 'going', what it all 'means' - 'the future' - is that I need to worry less about all that. I've stopped fretting over anything that is less than pretty bloody concrete and immediate. What's going to happen tomorrow can't change the quality of what I have today, so I need to focus on making sure i extract all the juicy goodness I can out of today. I might not have a tomorrow, so why worry about what it has in store? But despite getting a better radar, and despite avoiding allowing obviously daft things to de-rail you, train wrecks still come along. What determines whether of not you survive? Good luck? Enough love? Sheer bloody-mindedness and will to survive? Again, I dunno. I've always realised that I needed to do something to change the course of each train wreck before it all got beyond the point of recovery. I've had a lightbulb moment - remembered, in the end, why I'm with him, and how special he is, started to see things from his perspective, worked out that what I thought was reasonable in my behaviour might not be as reasonable as all that, etc etc. Once I can get my perspective and sense of proportion back, the rest is about wanting to fix the communication breakdown and working to fix it. I guess deep down, we both believe that the good bits are good enough to be worth the effort it takes to find our way out. Once it stops being worth the effort, maybe it'll be time to quit. Which takes me to my last thought (phew!)... When it's bad, it's horrible. Again, for me, I guess the pain you feel when it's not working well is a bit like childbirth - once the bad bit is over, I forget about the actual pain I felt and I don't then carry it around with me - I learn from the experience, and so does he, and we're both the better for it. But it might be different for you - too bruising? Scars starting to thicken? No time to recover before the next wave? When will it all become crippling? Only you know.
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Post by fuzzynick on Mar 28, 2013 6:31:11 GMT
Lovely replies: will go back over those a few times Indecision and confusion is definitely a trait, as much as passion. I have never managed more than 3 yrs myself, and am looking forward to having an ADD specialist therapist help be work out all these relationship nightmares that finally seem connected to the condition. Mayb they can throw some light I know that what always throws light for me - is resting my busy busy and often utterly exhausted and broken overcooked brain (going into the sidelines as you put it maybe ) The best way for me to do that now is guided mindfulness meditation. Especially regularly. Not thinking about it all, and observing and then slowly relaxing my body, breath and mind for a bit. Works wonders at helping me get perspective. It really helps with all my interactions. Calm, clarity, comprehension, and often insight. Although one time early on, it did help me really focus on my anger lol I dont think that was a particularly good session LoL, although the assassin from Fish Called Wanda might disagree there are many flavours of meditation PS if you are interested, am particularly impressed with Sharon Salzbergs 28 day course at the mo, (wish I could afford the 8week classes in a group) but Bruce Frantzis is a good way in if you like eastern martial arts? There are tons, all of varying persuasions, approaches and standards. I have a huge and ever growing library that I mentioned in a thread called: Topic: guided audio meditation (mindfulness, etc) and there is a little more info there... If you want to help get an ADDer into this as well, it is obviously really important to find one they actually like, and the meditation monitor (HRV biofeedback) I have also works wonders. Much more visual and scientific, for those that like to be able to see progress and actual results on the screen. I should have a post up about that soon PS obviously not suggesting you should try and force anyone into it, very counterproductive, but just doing it yourself might work wonders, is slow but powerful stuff, and sometimes slowly contagious too, it really helps me connect, and to see when not to try. Peace and clarity can change your whole perpective. We see the world through how we feel....at that moment!
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Post by fuzzynick on Mar 28, 2013 6:40:44 GMT
Oh, and my comedy advice is never live with an ADHDer! When we are good, we are very very good, but when we is bad, we is [glow=red,2,300]horrid[/glow] We definitely, at the very least, need things like man caves to crawl off to and cool off in
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Post by penelope on Mar 28, 2013 15:48:08 GMT
thanks all of you, nice not to feel so alone! Yes I do need to look at what I'm trying to get out of the relationship and whether I should be looking elsewhere in my life for some of it. It takes two to tango I guess. It's good advice in theory to live in the moment etc - but I find myself worrying about the future because of my age - my biological clock is ticking away like mad and getting louder, and I haven't got a lot of time left to decide whether I'm going to have children and, if so, who I'm having them with. No doubt this is putting huge pressure on him but I don't want to pretend it's not there. Thanks for the childbirth analogy (fitting!) - yeah, I tend to forget the pain once the bad patch is over... but I do worry that I'll miss the opportunity to have kids, only to find that he breaks it off with me in a few years anyway. It's become clear to him in the last couple of days that I'm really unhappy, so now he's being super-attentive and loving and asking if we can talk things over when he next has a day off work... which is really nice admittedly... but it would be nice if he could be like that sometimes without me getting to this level of upset-ness to trigger it
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Post by DKL - darkknightslover on Mar 30, 2013 13:37:29 GMT
The problem with ADHDers is they very often have problems with prioritising the things around them. Their chemicals aren't the same as everyone else's and so they have problems with thinking like everyone else. Their brains have issues with picking out the important things from all the noise, and often can be sucked into (hyperfocus on) the "wrong" one as it's an issue they find the most engaging (because it's about a favoured subject, directly relevant to them or has a very bad effect if not done (and usually they have very little time to do it in)). In some cases the hyperfocussed ADHDer won't realise they're hungry/need the loo/are late for something because they've lost track of time.
This is often also the case with communication. As there's so much involved with it (body posture, voice tone, wording, personality, history etc) it's very difficult to take it all in when there's also other stuff going on in your head/around you.
The easiest way to explain it it by imagining everyone's skulls being filled with ping-pong balls (thoughts) that never stop bouncing around. Your brain is able to colour code them and distinguish the important ones from the not so (e.g. bf is talking to me, he looks concerned about something, I should stop paying attention to the TV). His brain is not so good at doing this. (TV - pretty pictures, sound, movement, information, what shall I have for dinner? I feel crappy about something. Did I remember to hand that memo to Ben? Memo sounds like Nemo. Finding Nemo's my fave film! I feel like Dory. Dory is Blue - so is the sky! What's the weather like tomorrow? Blackbird flew past window! Ooo feathers.. What's it like to fly? I feel crappy. Why do I feel crappy? Something's not right... Something about... Words not coming to me... Gf asking how I am. Not good. Can't explain. Words not coming. Does the car have enough petrol? What do I need to get at the shop tomorrow? Gf annoyed I'm taking too long to respond... What was the question again?"
All of these ping-pong balls are looked at when they're noticed and we can only follow one or two at a time. Balls are more noticeable when they're in our face and shouting at us. Hence why hints often are ignored unless we're "on the ball" and everything else in life is good and so don't need attention.
ADHDers are at their most effective when they're able to live in the moment, which us very difficult to do when you're trying to juggle all of these balls and you can't tell which are the most important ones to hold on to until you sit down and write them all down or something to look at them objectively. Hence to-do lists!
Withdrawal is often an anxiety-driven response. In other people I know with ADD (including myself) it's like you feel so crap already, avoiding other things that make you feel crap temporarily helps the situation at the time. There's also the thing of not knowing your own feelings or how to describe them or what they're about. If you can't deal with a situation, why keep trying? It's like you're banging your head against a brick wall.
The reason why we're often not good at recognising how we feel and why is because when we were growing up and we reacted incorrectly to situations, you're told you're feeling the wrong thing. By everyone. You were usually reacting correctly to the situation you interpreted, but the interpretation may have been wrong because you were distracted by the ping-pongs. Also because we have issues with impulsivity and social boundaries much of the time, the reaction is little or not moderated. You start to mistrust your own feelings and stop recognising what they're telling you. It's therefore much harder to tell what you think about stuff.
All of this can change during time of stress. The brain chemistry changes in such a way that it's like the water behind the damn finally spills over the top and you're able to function, spot things you didn't before, pay attention! Situations of high stress such as "Gf might leave me" "friend coming over in 10 mins and this place is a tip" "woah I almost crashed into that car!" "I need to get X Y and Z done before I'm allowed to leave work to go to a job interview I really want to get and feel confident about" (this is one of mine in a previous job and was one isolated good day where I didn't forget anything during a period of 6 months where there was something every day). With how you feel you might recognise finally that you feel strongly about something, but you still might now know why.
There's also new situations/people so often older friends and family can feel snubbed when they get the surly version of the polite bouncy person they saw talking to the group of people at the pub. "Why can't you be like that for me? Don't you care how I feel?"
All of this is stuff I've been picking up from discoveries about myself. I am not a professional and I am certainly not an expert, though I seem to know and be learning more than your average person. Your boyfriend might be different. Ask him to read that though and see what he thinks.
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Post by li0nberries on Mar 30, 2013 23:09:16 GMT
I keep reading all these posts and just thinking, hmm, yeah.... I've never been able to easily understand what I'm feeling apart from when I'm angry? The whole relationship thing is a mind field for this. A typical example is the nightmare conundrum I had when after 6 months my partner said he needs to know how I feel. Fist tip for anyone else in this situation. "I'll think about it.", is apparently not an acceptable response, from past relationships it seems neither is, "ok if you want we'll get engaged as long as I don't have to commit to anything.", "I'm not sure how I feel about you because at this point in our relationship pheromones will be biasing my opinion,", " about 30% definately positive, 15% negative, 15% ok and 40% not sure,", "can we do this later,". "I cant tell at the moment, cause the sex was so good my judgement will probably be clouded.". Faking sleep gets you in deep water! "Ok," is not an ok response to someone telling you they love you? Actually sod this the list of things I have learnt NOT TO say is endless.
The trouble is it is so difficult to first understand what your feeling, then work out why eg. Is it influenced by a hormone thing eg pmt, pheromones? Then if you get that far, work out how much you definately know them, cause you can't love a whole person if you only know some sides or aspects of them. It becomes even worse when you start adding the whole trust thing, how much lack of trust means that there is something lacking in the likelihood this is genuine love? Would you trust him with a joint account? Would you trust him with your friends embarrassing but interesting secret? Why do you want to spend time with them? Is it because they make you laugh? They make you feel safe and cared about? They make you feel better about things? If that is the case then is it them you enjoy or are they just filling a gap in your life that could also be filled by team sports or something else? IT'S HELL!
Maybe if you really want to know how he feels ask him to give it to you in percentages being careful not to break it down too much but just like, 0-100 how much do you trust me? 0-100 how much of the time are you happy not to change the fact we're together? If he's anything like me though, don't expect 100 on anything, be chuffed with 70 and don't worry if its over 50, cause with a percentage of over 50, the chances of him being able to think through it all, weigh it all up and decide to leave, are slim. If you feel his answers are too low though, ask what points got knocked off for and try and work on those areas? Also ask him if he wants you to answer the same things, cause it might help him understand you better?
Finally on all my very biased me centred rambling, if a baby is definately what you want out of life and you can't decide what to do in terms of your relationship at the moment; have you thought about having some of you're eggs frozen. Because no-one should accept not being able to give fulfilling their ultimate dream a go. Or is having a baby more important than any relationship? In which case are there any gay men you know, who are desperate to be fathers to their biological children and if so, could you work successfully with them at raising a child. If that's what you decide you ultimately want, then don't take any risks with it and think outside the box as well as inside it. Lastly on the baby thing. Having been bought up by my mum on her own for most of my childhood, the importance of a loving father never occurred to me as I was cool with it and was glad to be rid of mine. However, when my I broke up with the father of my eldest child and he did all kinds of things that I won't go into but showed my son he wasn't as important as his other various interests, be they girlfriends, hobbies etc....it was awful for him. He doesn't see him now but my son is so venomous about him, it is clear its still a huge thing for him and nothing I can say or do, can explain or justify it to him. Then on top of that, for both of us I think. Seeing how much my youngest twos father loves his children, and watching what they get from him, even though he can be a shouting, stroppy, nightmare who is yet to grasp the concept of tolerance with anyone apart from me. (In fairness I think I use enough up for the rest of the world :-) ); the stability and paternal side of the coin definately give them something important that I cannot and would not have known about, if I hadn't eventually got to the conclusion that I did love most of him, very much. I'm not saying that as a judgement cause I recon give me one good parent over two mediocre ones any day, its just something I wish I'd understood more for my eldests sake.
I've got so lost now I'm not even sure I'm on topic but good luck and I hope you find the strength and self awareness, to head in the direction that makes you happy.
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Post by DKL - darkknightslover on Mar 31, 2013 10:19:55 GMT
Percentages does sound like a good way of going, but it is very chance-y because the non ADHDer might not like or quite understand the reasoning. Not because of a lack of intelligence or empathy, but how are we supposed to be able to quantify a feeling, if we can't explain where it cones from? Probably raises more questions than it answers.
A lot of people say "when you know you know". I didn't really apart from when he asked me to marry him and at times when I faced loosing him. Up until finding out about ADD and realising there was stuff I could do, there was a lot of stress of some kind or other from my (inability at) life impacting our relationship which was a disease ground for many negative feelings. There were a number of times when I questioned if it was love for him I felt, or that it was just I'd finally found someone who loved me and I was just riding along. Then I'd ask myself how I'd feel if we parted. My terror at loosing him (not the security) assured me it was love. Sounds extreme, but ADHD is a condition where without pharmacological help/highly structured lifestyle we find it easier to think clearly under extreme conditions.
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Post by penelope on Mar 31, 2013 14:41:40 GMT
Wow, thank you both for your illuminating and very helpful posts. Love the ping pong analogy (humour always helps!) - he's explained this stuff to me lots of times but it's helpful to hear it from someone outside the situation who's not trying to excuse their own behaviour to me. Also interested to hear your thoughts about the emotional/communication stuff - I showed this to him and I think it's a relief for both of us to hear someone mention this stuff, the knock-on effects of living with adhd rather than the direct symptoms that a lot of people seem to focus on. For us I think the communication issues have been more important (and destructive) than problems with organisation etc. Have either of you any experience or opinions of therapy/counselling to help deal with this side of things?
lionberries, your questioning of what love is and the validity of emotions reminds me a bit of his reactions when I've grilled him about how he feels. It's interesting, I can kind of understand why you would question all of that, but at the same time I have a feeling that love isn't something you can necessarily analyse in that way. Of course it's sensible not to make big life decisions based on hormone-fuelled exaggerated feelings - but at the same time if my gut tells me I love someone then that's that. But maybe with adhd it's harder to distinguish real love from hormones, insecurities, fear of loneliness, etc? Also I think there's a difference between knowing you love someone and deciding the relationship is 'right' for you - I could decide to quit while I'm ahead, leave him while I still have time to find someone else to settle down and have kids with. So far I've chosen not to do that, doesn't mean it wouldn't be a sensible, rational decision.
Thanks for the practical advice about freezing eggs etc... I'm quite attached to the idea of raising kids together with a partner (preferably their father), so I think if that doesn't happen then I'll end up just learning to live with that, and finding other ways to have children in my life.
Have just asked him what percentage of the time he's happy to be with me and he won't be drawn! was worth a shot though.
I'm going to try experimenting with different ways of being 'in his face' and demanding attention when I need it - as you point out and our experience has proven, hints just don't work. Not sure how to do it though, short of jumping up and down shouting... suggestions welcome!
It's really reassuring to hear other people with similar issues to him.
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Post by twix on Mar 31, 2013 18:40:04 GMT
Hope you sort it out.
So much of what you have all written is applicable to me as well, I'm a bit overwhelmed by it and I'm going to have to read it again another time I think. Maybe get my OH to read it too.
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Post by li0nberries on Mar 31, 2013 20:45:15 GMT
:-) Penelope you answered the question your post put in my head, how do other people know when they feel love? It sounds so simple, trusting your gut, the trouble is my gut instincts tell me things like, "we need another dog, so I might as well just take this cute puppy home now, we'll probably have an argument about it before he accepts it, but it saves time getting it now I'm here, rather than waiting to have a discussion, then waiting to go all the way back to pick it up." His favourite animal episode was when taking the kids round a rare breeds farm, I stumbled across a sign advertising the adorable Pygmy goat kids for sale. I've always liked Pygmy goats, so after eventually tracking down the manager, I phoned my partner while waiting for the manager to get the paperwork together, to ask him to stop at a DIY place on way home from work, so he could get the stuff to build a large shed type thing for them in the garden. Sadly it turned out they expected me to have a small holding for the kids, which i didn't so didn't get them.
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Post by penelope on Apr 1, 2013 17:44:20 GMT
now I feel better, at least he never brings random animals home! I think it's not just people with adhd who struggle with the 'gut feeling' thing - it's not always simple, we're not taught to trust our own instincts and I'm often unsure whether I'm acting on gut feeling/instinct, or an emotional reaction that I shouldn't necessarily be acting on, or what I've absorbed from other people's opinions and perspectives. But loving someone isn't really about passion and fireworks, it's just the vague warm feeling that's there in the background most of the time (though of course it's stronger at some times than others). The fireworks are just the icing on the cake.
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Post by DKL - darkknightslover on Apr 7, 2013 12:18:48 GMT
In answer to your question we've never had counselling. I'm very lucky that my hubby has a good handle on mental health and neurobiology as he himself has Bipolar 2 (which with DSM-V now out he's hoping to change to something else as he's never been purely manic, only depressed or mixed episode) and is about to finish his medical degree. He does have the stipulation that he has more value of peer-reviewed evidence over almost everything else. Our communication is very forward, honest and looks at the underlying issues. I might get angry at his tone of voice or line of enquiry which puts my back up and makes me incredibly defensive, but then we talk about how I got to that point, and what it is that he's trying to get at, or vice versa (only he doesn't get defensive, just really annoyed!) Because of the peer review thing I'm not sure that we could have joint counselling. Unless the professional was something special! Sent from my GT-I9000 using proboards
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I need to speak to Atakpo urgently. Does he accept monies from the commonwealth for the spellings? If not, I have many, fine, leatherbound, books I could use as barter. I normally prefer to buy spellings in bulk; could we negotiations a discount? I am particularly partial to green and pink spellings in 75ml vials. Does he have a spelling to turn my roller blades into an Audi RS4? I have searched the 5 internets high and low for such a spell without luck. One time, an imp promised me the keys to Casterly Rock in return for my silver handled tin opener and a pair of Adidas socks but he did not keep his end of the bargain! I will need assurances that this deal we are about to strike will deliver to me all the things I want, need and deserve.
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