|
Post by happygolucky1 on Jan 25, 2014 17:15:50 GMT
Can anyone please advise me on how to deal with my partner. We have been together for almost 2 yrs, and throughout that time it has been quite turbulent on his part. He gets angry very quickly, and when he does, he says the most hurtful things. I have found myself almost shutting down in an argument, as it seems pointless to try and get my point of view across. I too have been very firey in past relationships, but have learnt to calm down, so i often try and diffuse the situation, by speaking in a calm low tone, but nothing works. When he does calm down, he really doesnt acknowledge the fact that i am hurt, and never apologises. If i try to discuss the situation, and how it was dealt with, he 10 times out of ten says its my fault. I am not perfect and certainly have my faults and issues, but it cant and isnt just about me. It is actually starting to make me feel like i am a bad person, but deep down i know im not.
He is undiagnosed, he told me he might have it when we first met. I suppose i just want to find out if the way he acts is down to a disorder, or he just has a cruel streak in him,his symptoms are, Quick temper. says really hurtful things, when angry, such as u f...Bitch.... youve got no brain, etc. cant sit still, unless totally absorbed in say watching a film. Bends one of his legs up and down constantly whilst sleeping, this goes on for ours(i often wonder how he sleeps, but i guess his brain is very active). Often getting into arguments with people, but cant seem to see he is at fault AT ALL. Lack of empathy when it comes to me. Cant hold a conversation for long. Often seems he is not listening. He has what i can only decribe as facial spasms once in a while,his sort of screws his face up .. and his eyes flicker rapidly.
If anyone on here thinks that maybe from what i have described he may have.....any ideas how i can maybe convince him to maybe seek some help. This is ruining our realtionship, and if its doesnt work out with us, i would at least try to help him to see, what he has is going to be a problem in any relationship. I may add, he also told me that other than his last relationship to his childs mother of 9 years( i heard from his sister that he did some very cruel things to her), prior to that he has been unable to keep a relationship for longer than two years. He also mentioned to me at the beginning of our relationship, that i would end up hating him.
I dont hate him and dont want to, i would rather get out now, and be friends. Thanks in advance for any advice.( by the way he is 41)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 23:27:25 GMT
I would never use language like that to another human being, let alone someone I was supposed to be in a loving relationship. It's not always all about ADHD. Here's a useful site on living with (or, sometimes, getting away from) people who have personality disorders: link. I hope it turns out your partner is just a bit rude and thoughtless, but you may find it helpful to take a broader view of what's going on here - maybe get some relationship counselling.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 0:35:28 GMT
It doesn't matter how much you love somebody - if they are abusive then you only have so much slack in your system.
If he doesn't get treatment soon then you will need to leave. It would be lovely if you could see him through this, I sincerely hope you can.
It sounds like ADHD or Tourettes* - either of which can be incredibly destructive to a relationship. Either way it's a job for high level mental health care.
*sorry - an internet 'diagnosis' is always a guess, it needs proper medical advice.
|
|
|
Post by shapes on Jan 26, 2014 3:43:19 GMT
I'd get out of the relationship, you've already admitted it's affecting you.
|
|
|
Post by odat on Jan 26, 2014 6:07:58 GMT
Some people with ADHD have bad tempers. However being abusive and as rude as your partner are are NOT ADHD traits. I hate it when ADHD gets used an excuse for such bad behaviour because it gives all of us a bad name! Also, why is it you coming here to learn about ADHD and not your partner feeling remorseful and trying to improve himself? You are not in a healthy relationship. You need to stop looking for excuses for the way he is treating you. It doesn't sound like he even wants to change. Get out now!
|
|
|
Post by grim on Jan 26, 2014 9:27:56 GMT
I dont hate him and dont want to, i would rather get out now, and be friends. That sounds like a good course of action...far better than enduring undeserved abuse and bullying
|
|
|
Post by Kathymel on Jan 26, 2014 9:56:53 GMT
It is actually starting to make me feel like i am a bad person, but deep down i know im not. Nail on the head, right there. You are already being damaged by this relationship. The ADHD might be an issue underlying his behaviour but it doesn't excuse or justify it. The bottom line is, if he is not questioning his behaviour and ready to accept that something needs to give, he won't change. Nothing you say or do is going to change him until he is ready to do it himself. I hope you find the strength to protect yourself. x
|
|
|
Post by JJ on Jan 26, 2014 18:46:32 GMT
Some people with ADHD have bad tempers. However being abusive and as rude as your partner are are NOT ADHD traits. I hate it when ADHD gets used an excuse for such bad behaviour because it gives all of us a bad name! Also, why is it you coming here to learn about ADHD and not your partner feeling remorseful and trying to improve himself? You are not in a healthy relationship. You need to stop looking for excuses for the way he is treating you. It doesn't sound like he even wants to change. Get out now! I agree with this and the other comments completely. There are things that sound like adhd in there (and Tourette's as PDave said) , but being cruel and abusive is nothing to do with these at all. And even if they were, you shouldn't be accepting of them - you have a right to be happy and not subjected to random nasty attacks at his will. Regardless of any positive things you can say, what you're describing isn't a 'relationship' in the proper sense of the word. Healthy relationships are affirming, positive, supportive, calm......Hanging around in this relationship will only be to the detriment of your mental health and self-esteem. You have no obligation to help him sort out anything - you're not responsible for him, he's not your child and his needs are not more important than yours - you can't rescue him and you can't save him - you don't have to and you can't anyway. I'd suggest counselling for you - you're describing codependency issues, which, unless examined will only ever lead you into relationships with people not worthy of your affections. There are plenty of men out there who aren't abusive - and you need to truly believe you deserve them, rather than only be worth sporadic good times with someone who is otherwise nasty to you. Good luck xx
|
|
endeavour
Member's not posted much yet
Posts: 16
|
Post by endeavour on Feb 2, 2014 9:24:20 GMT
Wow, I'm really surprised by the unsympathetic responses you have received - interestingly all from ADDers I think. All seem to be advising you to cut and run. My husband is 60 and I learned about Adult ADHD 2 years ago, and it was my lightbulb moment as it provided a logical explanation for many of my husband's "odd" behaviours over the last 25+ years. He is completely resistant to any mental health issues, so remains undiagnosed and completely in denial. However, I have been able to instigate some degree of change in our relationship by adapting my own behaviour and responses towards him. Apart from the fact my husband doesn't use really bad language at me during arguments, he has most of the symptoms you list. I'm not sure whether I would describe him as abusive although I'm sure many of my friends would. There are definitely times when I wish I had known about Adult ADHD at the beginning of our relationship and I would probably have made very different decisions in my life. Maybe we wouldn't have moved in together, as it is the day to day issues which are the most destructive. Maybe we wouldn't have brought another child into the world who is showing all the signs of ADHD as he struggles to deal with the pressures of adulthood. But we have also had some amazing times over the last 3 decades, many of which are entirely due to the fact I'm married to an extremely talented, skilled, creative man who is passionate about whatever his current new project is!
My advice is to learn everything you can about ADHD. The forum on the "ADHD and Marriage" website is very good, as is the book "Is it You, Me or Adult ADHD?". Both provide info from the perspective of the partner. It can be depressing reading, but will leave you in no doubt what you are letting yourself in for. You need to be mentally tough, resilient, independent, a strong negotiator and full of self-belief if you are going to survive a long-term relationship with an ADDer. And don't kid yourself that you can leave the relationship now and stay friends - if he does have ADHD, he will almost certainly demonise you and blame you for breakup. Good luck, whatever your decision.
|
|
|
Post by fuzzywuzzy on Feb 2, 2014 12:03:48 GMT
he 10 times out of ten says its my fault. starting to make me feel like i am a bad person, but deep down i know im not. a cruel streak in him says really hurtful things, when angry, such as u f...Bitch.... youve got no brain, etc. i heard from his sister that he did some very cruel things to (the mother of his child) I dont hate him and dont want to, i would rather get out now, and be friends. THIS and ADHD do not necessarily go together....there is a whole lot more in here that needs addressing......and it needs the person with these 'attributes' to want to address them apparently sometimes ADHD and diplomacy do go together
|
|
|
Post by JJ on Feb 3, 2014 23:39:34 GMT
And don't kid yourself that you can leave the relationship now and stay friends - if he does have ADHD, he will almost certainly demonise you and blame you for breakup. This is nothing to do with adhd You are misinformed as well as being offensive to adhd'ers Some adhd'ers are arses, some NTs are arses You and the poster are with arses who might happen to have adhd, but this is incidental to the fact they're arses. We have enough stigma to deal with, please don't lump us in with domestic abusers too - we're not one and the same
|
|
chrispy
Member's posted somewhat
Posts: 81
|
Post by chrispy on Feb 4, 2014 10:54:27 GMT
The bending of his leg while he sleeps would seems important.
Have a look at Restless legs syndrome for a starter, but any major sleep problems can cause ADHD type symptoms as well as bad moods.
Just because he seems to sleep OK, and is not tired all the time, does not mean he does not have a sleep problem as sleep is a very complex thing.
Whatever his problem, I agree with the others and you should not put up with abusive behavior.
I guess from what you say, he has done little to actually help himself, maybe go to see your GP together might start him on the right path.
Although I hate to say it, if he does get help and things improve, unless the improvements are dramatic, your relationship will not last, so while I do think you should try to help him seek help, don't sacrifice your well being in exchange for his.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 14:14:27 GMT
And don't kid yourself that you can leave the relationship now and stay friends - if he does have ADHD, he will almost certainly demonise you and blame you for breakup. This is nothing to do with adhd You are misinformed as well as being offensive to adhd'ers Some adhd'ers are arses, some NTs are arses You and the poster are with arses who might happen to have adhd, but this is incidental to the fact they're arses. We have enough stigma to deal with, please don't lump us in with domestic abusers too - we're not one and the same Yeah, we ADDers can do some "stupid" things at times but anything to do with the condition is often followed by tons of remorse. How many times have I been left with my head in my hands, sobbing inside and saying, "why did I just do/say that?". And that's a bit different from the reactionary tabloidesque portrayal that we somehow also hold grudges because of our condition. So endeavour, agree with JJ, nowt to do with ADHD, although the condition might exacerbate blurting surrounding relationship issues.
|
|
|
Post by shapes on Feb 4, 2014 14:36:41 GMT
I do have to laugh how a NT comes on to the forum and tells us all off for not knowing enough about ADHD.
|
|
|
Post by happygolucky1 on Feb 4, 2014 18:02:33 GMT
Thank you for all your replies, i taken them all on board. I have left him, hoping to be friends, but he is not having it, he says its all or nothing. He basically says its all my fault it has happened. . I have apologised to him for any part i have played in upsetting/hurting him, but as expected no apology for the abuse and hurt he has caused. I am guessing it is ADHD along with other issues, but now realise i cannot help someone who doesnt want help, As he said there is nothing wrong with him.....i have to laugh.. bless him. Hopefully one day when he has calmed down, he may speak to me again, but for now, he is not responding at all, even when i just text to ask how he and his son are, sad. Anyway thanks again.x
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 18:21:58 GMT
Sorry to hear about your problems happygolucky1. I think we've all been prone to deflect our failings onto others in the past and it often takes a brave jump to admit we're not perfect as human beings whether NT or not. I mean the biggest perpetrators of this deflection are local authorities and government departments. They'd sooner scapegoat an individual than admit they were wrong to the various media outlets. So when individuals see this behaviour playing out in front of their eyes by the big boys, I suspect many will mimic it (without even realising) such is the hypocrisy they experience in life itself. I also suspect a defence mechanism at play here. Many ADHDers have to encompass real failure on a daily basis and work hard to overcome it by putting mechanisms and shortcuts in place in order to make life easier. Perhaps this is an example. Often the journey through the ADHD process is to recognise this and understand the pain we can inflict on others. But then ADHD can be ridiculed in the media, and by NTs generally, leading to some wider conflict in their various manifestations. Perhaps another example of your case? I dunno, rambling a bit and thinking out aloud. Hope things move forward positively for you
|
|
|
Post by odat on Feb 4, 2014 18:37:53 GMT
As sad as you feel, you made the right decision. It's so wrong that it's you apologising and not him. I don't know any ADHDers as selfish or as rude as him.
|
|
|
Post by happygolucky1 on Feb 4, 2014 19:09:35 GMT
cheers guys... hope things work out for you too, and i wish you all good luck and happy lives.x
|
|
endeavour
Member's not posted much yet
Posts: 16
|
Post by endeavour on Feb 23, 2014 9:59:53 GMT
Well my earlier post certainly stirred up some emotion. Regarding this response - "I do have to laugh how a NT comes on to the forum and tells us all off for not knowing enough about ADHD", could I just say that my original comments were not directed towards ADDs but aimed at a partner who came here for support. My advice to her was to find out as much about ADHD as possible, as education and enlightenment can sometimes show a different path forward. I don't pretend to understand what it is like to have ADHD. But I have 30 years of living with someone that does and also belong to other forums aimed more specifically at partners, so do feel qualified to empathise with someone who has been in a similar situation to myself.
happygolucky1. says "I have left him, hoping to be friends, but he is not having it, he says its all or nothing" and says that he blames her for the breakup. Maybe I did not choose my words carefully enough, but is this not what I predicted? Blaming others is a coping mechanism that many ADDs use to cover up or defend their own, often frequent, mistakes. Of course, many NTs do exactly the same because it is a natural human response. Perhaps ADDs simply have occasion to use it more often.
I find it rather hypocritical to read posts on this site talking about respect and compassion for others, especially for ATs, only for both my partner and the partner of the original poster to be dismissed as mere "Arses". Of course, I've often called him (in my mind)far worse, but am at least trying to break the cycle of bad behaviour by understanding and addressing some of the underlying causes so it doesn't get learned by the next generation. If you don't want to read the different/skewed views of NTs, perhaps you should make it clear in the site rules that only posts from ADDs are welcome.
For those of you hoping that one day ADHD will be more widely accepted within society at large, you need to think about how you are going to engage NTs in your cause. Alienating those of us who come to this site in order to try and understand what makes ADDs tick, so that we can attempt to smooth the path of others is not very constructive.
I will be somewhat more circumspect in any future postings and consider myself well and truly chastised.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 10:46:02 GMT
perhaps you should make it clear in the site rules that only posts from ADDs are welcome.For those of you hoping that one day ADHD will be more widely accepted within society at large, you need to think about how you are going to engage NTs in your cause. Alienating those of us who come to this site in order to try and understand what makes ADDs tick, so that we can attempt to smooth the path of others is not very constructive. I will be somewhat more circumspect in any future postings and consider myself well and truly chastised. Have you read the site rules? The individuals who use the site are not representatives of ADHD, but of themselves. I'd thank you for not tarring a subset of society on the basis of your experience at home and here because, although you might have longitudinal experience, you don't have good width. We aren't engaging NTs here - it's a special interest site - antelopes walking into a pride of lions should not expect lions to have stopped being themselves.
Projecting your own, limited, worldview onto anyone else is not helpful and I'm not surprised you had a torrid welcome - it's not because you're NT - any arsiness is given short shrift here. Have a google of 'cingulate gyrus' and 'ADHD emotional response' to understand why.That's quite egocentric
|
|
surprised
Member's not posted much yet
Yes, a custom title. The only one.
custom title?
Posts: 47
|
Post by surprised on Jun 6, 2014 2:29:45 GMT
Happygolucky. I realise this is pretty old and you left your partner and im very new to this ADHD thing, BUT IMO what your partner could very well have is not adhd but some form of psychopathy. Sounds an extreme word to use i know, but i had a partner that was like that. It was horrendous. To say someone is a psychopath sounds really extreme but in reality it is not and is FAR more common than u would ever think. One of the main traits is the total lack of empathy. They are also normally very charming and draw you in. Never take responsibility. Its ALWAYS someone else's fault. They are very manipulative and appear to get pleasure out of being cruel. I wish i could find the web site that i discovered about it, to post a link. But just do a search about symptoms and see how much is resonates with u.
|
|
|
Post by Frankie on Jun 6, 2014 18:16:29 GMT
endeavour, as an arsehole ADHDer myself, I completely 'get' your post and agree wholeheartedly. You are a diamond in the rough and I mean that with utmost sincerity. Most NTs give up loooong before the point you got to, allowing the outer shell of their partners confusion and insecurity from ADHD to blight their own confidence. I've been 'that' person and watched helplessly as it spiralled out of control. You do your utmost and hope for some validation that your efforts are helping but when you hear the same complaints about things you are barely conscious you do, it's a big confidence knock. ADHD sucks!!! surprised, I completely understand your viewpoint on psychopaths because a basic google search on the offensive and confusing ADHD symptoms will turn up stuff like this. The key point is normally 'lack of empathy'. Empathy is like a battery. It gets used up and then it needs to be recharged. I will suggest ADHDers rip through whatever small emotional vault empathy is stored in very quickly and in the midst of a rocky relationship (that'll be every relationship I ever had!), that battery aint gonna get recharged like a normal person. This doesn't make them (us? me?) psychopaths because I still feel deep emotional connections to people and situations, once I've 'recovered' from relationship trauma, if it's fair to call it that. Not sure where I'm going with this actually but I can see people making the wrong connections to our condition and the only person who appears to get it is the NT you all lambasted? Mind you, I will forget this post exists in about 15 seconds so I can't say much either!
|
|
surprised
Member's not posted much yet
Yes, a custom title. The only one.
custom title?
Posts: 47
|
Post by surprised on Jun 7, 2014 22:42:36 GMT
I am in NO way saying anyone with adhd/add is psychopathic. But having been in a relationship with one there is a HUGE difference between a person who has empathy but it may have been worn down and a person with psychopathic tendancies who has no idea what empathy is and whats more doesnt want to mnow and wouldnt b able to understand it anyway. Its actually incredibly worrying how many of them are walking amongst us. We just dont know it! They dont all commit terrible crimes!!!
|
|
|
Post by carly31 on Jun 14, 2014 22:50:23 GMT
...I wish I had known about Adult ADHD at the beginning of our relationship and I would probably have made very different decisions in my life... ...Maybe we wouldn't have brought another child into the world who is showing all the signs of ADHD as he struggles to deal with the pressures of adulthood... ...don't kid yourself that you can leave the relationship now and stay friends - if he does have ADHD, he will almost certainly demonise you and blame you for breakup... I'll be honest- I'm not surprised these comments caused offense. Just out of curiosity, are you? All three of these comments imply that there is something wrong with a person who has ADHD. Is that what you believe? Would you really not have had your son if you knew he was going to have ADHD? Is that all there is to him? I wonder now if I am right to wish I was never born, so that I wouldn't be a burden on my family and on society. Am I right to feel this way? Maybe your experience of living with a person with ADHD has been really negative and I'm sorry if this is the case. I find it really useful to hear how partners without ADHD experience living with somebody with ADHD but I don't find these particular comments constructive or helpful.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 8:00:23 GMT
Depends what we define as "something wrong". If we, the human race, are just an accident of nature, a series of mutations spread over the course of several hundred millennia leading to bipeds with a majority physiological brain architecture that represents those we might refer to as NTs, then it seems we're going to be classed as different in comparison - although everyone is physically unique. It's whether we think there's something wrong with being physically or physiologically different. I see no difference between the prejudice applied to the physically disabled - whether that's observable or not, and those with mental health and disorder issues. Is this why many ADHDers are more likely to get locked up 1? And is it because there's "something wrong with them"? Well if there's "something wrong with them", who takes responsibility for that? Do we blame them for nature's propensity to deal harsh blows to a sizeable minority across the globe - whether that be a debilitating physical handicap or a brain issue leading to a tormenting mental condition. And look what happened yesterday; a prominent yet sensitive and emotional footballer allegedly bit out at another player for the third known time in his career. Nothing pleasant or correct about doing that, but such impulsive behaviour from a young man from a broken home that leads me to think he might have an impulsive disorder such as ADHD. The signs are there i.e. crying in front of a cameras, reacting to those around him in atypical fashion, instantly remorseful. Already the tabloids have put him in the virtual stocks in order to throw bad fruit, and worse, right at him. Nope. Seems to me we're living in an age that hasn't progressed much despite smartphones and mars rovers. We still have societal scapegoating, we're still frightened of our differences and we still put those that are significantly different to the mainstream into asylums, freak shows, circuses - albeit virtual ones at times, and of course, gaols where people are still brutalised, abused and threatened. Peaceful alien visitors would, I suspect, run a mile from this veritable backwater. And I wouldn't blame them 1 - www.adhdandjustice.co.uk/badge/adhd-and-crime-generally.aspx
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 8:59:12 GMT
Until we can 'surgically' remove whatever causes aberrant traits (biting, murdering prostitutes etc) then society will not separate the body from the behaviour.
I can take meds to change my behaviour but when I wake up in the morning I have ADHD again, with many negative ADHD behaviours (some only return on extended meds holidays).
If I crash my car (unmedicated) then what is liable for the damage caused, ADHD or me? If you say it was the ADHD at fault who is going to pay for the damage? Should 3rd parties just walk away shrugging their shoulders?
One of the wonders of medication, for me, is the feeling that this is actually me and that the ADHD had been separated from the person. If ADHD was a module I could remove most of the time I'd have it out, though it can be fun if I'm not hurting anyone.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 9:11:44 GMT
As the conclusion says - treat for outcome. The outcome (eg no car crash, no abusing people, useful life ) is important to me and working backwards to treatment is just fine by me. I'm a proponent of using meds - but it's for outcome. I don't care if it's a blue smartie or a shaman waving a bladder on a stick over me - whatever it takes to get a good outcome (without too much inconvenience). Perhaps one day there will be gene therapy and a real 'cure' (or another way of achieving a cure). I have some qualms over the idea of erasing part of me completely.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 12:19:28 GMT
Of course people have to be protected by others' abuses - including a certain defender who may or may not have got bitten on the shoulder yesterday, but the gene deficient and physiologically afflicted in society also have to be protected from nature's abuses. ADHDers didn't ask to be born with a floppy limbic system or underdeveloped frontal and temporal lobes did they? But it's all very easy for the afflicted to be labelled "wrong" or "bad" or "nutter". All I'm saying is that it's much more complex than the average Joe and his tabloid masters make out.
When a cyborg with a brain half-artificial-half-natural, say, eventually exists to go AWOL with a lethal zapper, are we going to blame (a) the cyborg, (b) the programmer or (c) both? In the case of those of us with physiological deficiencies, take the programmer as being a combination of nature and nurture.
In fact, if you replace the cyborg with a complete robot as in the above scenario, then you'd just decommission the rogue robot. Perhaps they'll recommend that we ADHDers will eventually require decommissioning then ;-)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 12:51:45 GMT
If a previously good dog gets rabies what do we do?
The result is the same as for one that was always bad (whatever that means) - protection is required.
If someone murders another then society reasonably demands that its members are protected.
If that murderer has a health issue that caused them to murder then should we protect by treatment (if foolproof)? I'd be happy with that.
At the moment we tend to punish + protect by separation from society because the popular belief is no smoke without fire.
As for ultimate cause - if that murder can be traced back to the influence of some other entity shouldn't that entity be culpable?
If it can be found then the law already covers such eventuality in most circumstances.
If a cure is ever found for ADHD should it be compulsory to protect society or should we respect that we are all genetic experiments and leave well alone unless the individual does harm?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 9:12:02 GMT
But the need for protection often turns into something far more vengeful - called punishment. An "eye-for-an-eye" if you like. Vengeful societies don't solve problems, they perpetuate them by simply replacing one form of brutality with another. Do the families of murder victims really gain closure when any alleged perpetrator is executed? I doubt it! The remorse for a loved one will still hurt in perpetuity. By punishing in the traditional sense, i.e. hurting someone in vengeful fashion for the crime they've allegedly committed, are we not simply putting up a defective mirror to the crime? How many times do we see the victims of crime become the perpetrators of it? Quite a bit I suspect and often on the largest of scales. A good example for me is when the genocide of one ethnic group turns into the eventual genocide of another.
As for ADHD, I don't think a true cure can be found because it would require, as I understand it, some physiological recreation of something that's physically missing. How would we know what to replace it with if brain tissue defines us as individuals?
|
|