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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 8:33:29 GMT
Sorry not a dead thread... I thought the last post was from 2011...
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Post by cdsinuk on Jun 28, 2012 7:58:58 GMT
ive read on NHS trusts Funding minutes of meetings that (Atomoxetine hydrochloride) is now a second tier mode of treatment if stimulant medication doesnt work, a second choice of meds? they dont seem have much confidence in it, has anybody had a positive result being on this drug? would be interested to find out?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 8:43:06 GMT
Atomoxetine is a second choice since it is less immediate, a bit more difficult to manage and more prone to side effects.
Also the take up of the primary treatments is so high and relatively straightforward (for a long term medication it's very easy going) that using anything else is daft unless it's not well tolerated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2012 15:52:13 GMT
hey there,
and what wd then be the nhs first choice?
i was diagnosed with adhs 6 weeks ago(now 26 years, took me some time hehe) however not even here, but in Austria- wd the NHS accept this or wd i need to do the whole complete test session again?
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Post by john65 on Feb 7, 2013 17:43:56 GMT
I may be thinking ahead too far but atomoxetine is the second line at the clinic I go to, if mph doesn't work out.
Don't really like what I have read about it, esp as I already take high dose methotrexate for arthritis, drug has a risk of liver toxicity. Plus I have had hepatitis c from iv drug use, successfully treated in 2005 - liver has damage from years of abuse and I have suicidal ideation which isn't really a problem, stems from an unsuccessful serious attempt when I was much younger.
Taking the above into account, I don't think this is a suitable drug for me so if I needed to change meds, would I be in my right to refuse it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 19:19:00 GMT
Yes, I think some PCTs are really frit by dexamphetamine (the stim that they are supposed to try before turning to atomoxetine, unless stims are ruled out on medical grounds). I don't know if it's because it's much more expensive than mph - I doubt it, as atomoxetine is pricey, too - or because of the fear of drug abuse/drug diversion. Either way, my PCT has now put in place a shared care protocol for ADHD that only considers use of mph or atomoxetine. I've shouted at them over this, but they're ignoring me, so far.
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Post by gremico on Sept 23, 2013 23:46:58 GMT
Anybody else had wasps going for them on this medication?! I actually cannot recall being stung before taking Atomoxitine. However in the past 2 months i have been stung 3 times, different locations geographically, but always in the hand/arm area physiologically. Its really starting to piss me off, you should see the size of my hand!!
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Post by Rowan on Oct 12, 2013 11:20:50 GMT
Anybody with predominantly inattentive ADHD use Strattera? I am not hyperactive, and I don't want to take anything that will make me less energetic.
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Post by Lesley on Oct 14, 2013 11:07:01 GMT
Hi Rowan.
I'm inattentive and take Strattera. It hasn't made me less energetic, but it hasn't made me more energetic either. What it has done is clear a sort of fog in my mind (which I hadn't really realised was there before, though I was aware of its effects), so that I can think more clearly, will hopefully be at least a little less timid around 'authority figures' and I think will be able to follow an argument more easily if I ever get round to doing the reading I want to do.
What it hasn't done is deal with my procrastination. I'm hoping that the clear mind will enable me to put strategies in place which will help with that, as at the moment I don't feel like risking what I've got already by trying another med which might suit me less.
As JJ said on the thread you started, everyone reacts differently to meds anyway. It might work better or worse for you than it has done for me.
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Post by mrsh on Oct 15, 2013 15:59:25 GMT
I am inattentive type and on Strattera. It does bugger all for me I think. I get a little tired more easily in the evenings - mostly, then some nights I find it hard to sleep. My appetite has decreased very, very slightly. Other than that mood is cycling as ever and brain fog is just as frustrating. I hope they will change it next month xxx
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Post by Kathymel on Oct 15, 2013 19:42:42 GMT
Hi MrsH. Good to see you back. Does this mean you've seen no improvements at all? What dose are you on, now?
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Post by mrsh on Oct 19, 2013 21:53:49 GMT
Na nowt - been titrating since april due to side effect sensitivities and history of suicidal ideation so....now on 80mg, have been for 3 weeks, nowt to report. Mood is up a little bit with the usual moody swings in there. This in its self is nothing new, just the cycle I go through. x
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Post by gremico on Oct 23, 2013 0:09:08 GMT
Have stopped this med, did nothing for ADHD PI. Increased anxiety, may of helped memory slightly. No other positives to report. Bit of chaos with stopping suddenly but fair price to pay to get rid of the "chemical cosh" feeling.
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Post by aurora on Jan 22, 2014 14:20:19 GMT
Right so I'm supposed to be starting strattera in 2 weeks and I'm really nervous.... Supposed to go straight on at 40... The thing is I have a kind of phobia of drugs, messed about a little in my teens and had some scary experiences... My nurse and I both agree that I may panic if I have too quick an effect so hence starting on this.
I've read what's been said and it's not really helping lol other than none of you seem particularly bothered by taking them. I'm not a nervous person really but I'm pretty nervous about this and struggling to calm myself.
My nurse says if I start less than 40 I'm likely to get just side effects and no positive reinforcements... I don't know...??
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Post by trachy123 on Jan 23, 2014 22:35:24 GMT
Hi. i have been on Staterra for 9 weeks. Titrated up from 40-60mg. I can honestly say that last weekend was the worst of my life. I felt that my brain was "solidifying"! I understand that this is a strange thing to write, but i cannot describe the sensation in any other way. I also had feelings and images of suicide and self harm that have not been with me before. I have now reduced the dose and am taking it every other day until i see the psychiatrist again in February. We all have personal reactions to all drugs, but for me, this is a definite no.
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Post by knave303 on Nov 5, 2014 19:02:25 GMT
My Strattera experience so far, 14 days in, has not been a good one. The side effects are terrible... especially as a guy... but it's the tiredness and lethargy after taking it that suck most, and the sleep issues. I just want to lay in bed and sleep forever on this drug. The dreams are really vivid and quite interesting really. Since taking it, I've been engaging with the real world less and less. Now I just sleep and dream. My mood has been deteriorating on it, but because I'm hardcore, I'll stick the whole 4 weeks through and see how I end up. For the past 5 days I haven't even had an erection, and it feels like my sexuality has been switched off. I have felt more depressed on this medication than I did without meds. I emailed my psych, nice chap, and he said I should discontinue it and get my GP to prescribe me Equasym XL 10mg, upping it 10mg each week. I see my GP on the 17th. Until then, I'll keep taking Strattera and living in dreamland. I was crying my eyes out yesterday saying things like "I am so sad", "I can't take this any more", etc. It has done nothing for my focus, motivation, and inattentiveness. I actually feel somewhat lobotomised, because my rapid thinking and imagination seem to have been neutralised. My mind feels quieter, but not in a good way, I feel dumb.
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Post by blaze on Nov 6, 2014 15:57:19 GMT
I love strattera, it improoves my.ability to function and organise and judge time and remember things and follow reciepes etc, yet I feel very little difference, which is what I want.
When on stimulants I felt like my brain was being forced to focus in an entirely unnatural way which I hated (plus v bad side effects) however strattera lets me feel like my brain is.doing its usual.scatty thing yet smhow as if by magic I still get through sm of the usual.to do stuff without the same level of stress or disastors as without.meds. Because I fuction smwhat better on strattera I feel a bit less panicy about having to force myself to remember things, and I worry less about being late and as its not quite as much work to get things done I find I am a bit less exhauasted.
I.wish I had been offered this as a kid!! I was on it from about 23 to 27 when I got pregnant then restarted recently after bf for along time then having to wait through reassessments etc as in v different area now. The effect now restarting it hasnt been as great as I remember but stilll pretty gd. Previously my best was 100mg of strattera and 20 ritilin ontop in the afternoon, I will see if we try this again now or jst stratrera or differwnt combo but strattera is def anazing for me.
Side effect wise its minimal, sm loss of sex drive, dry mouth, acid reflux and constipations, all of which I get from the pregabilin im on for chronic pain anyways, and all of which are easily treated (lots of water, natural fibre supplement, omeprazol, and time alone w oh)
Its a great success for me after most my life on and off stimulants with serious side effects and making me feel not like myself. Alittle stimulant kick can help when im worn out from trying to pay attension but caffine will do for now, non stimulant sits way better for my system overall. Im combined type btw.
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Post by anjie on Nov 29, 2014 21:37:14 GMT
Hi don't know if anyone is on the thread still but anyhow. Just started strattera ( day 4) and I feel awful. I feel constantly tingly and the headaches are killer, mood swings, insomnia, nausea, no appetite but it looks like Ive eaten a whale though I've gone the day without eating, paranoia, my head feels like a din. Do these go?
Sorry for the huge rant :/ just feeling very alone and sick. And emo apparently. Sorry
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Post by hai1988 on Dec 3, 2014 17:22:03 GMT
Hi anjie I too had headaches, mood swings, nausea and bloating and yes they did go after a week or so. Still have the occasional headache/migraine and have no appetite really but then think your always gonna get that no matter what adhd med your on.... I am now switching to concerta now as apart from these annoying side affects and the fact it made me spacey it did nothing for me so hope you have better experience with it
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Post by mark66 on Jun 16, 2015 22:28:57 GMT
Been on this for about 7 weeks. Had to reduce dose from 40 to 20 as felt so sick. I am concerned as I am very underweight and cannot afford to have my appetite subdued. Don't know if I should come off it. Have found some benefit as I feel a bit more focused but am not feeling physically well.
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Post by Gjc on Mar 9, 2016 12:42:03 GMT
Hi I've been on atomoxetine now for four weeks goin from 18mg to 60mg.i was originally on 90 concert class but was told thT wasn't working so I've been put on these.Thoughout the 4 was I've been feeling really sick and have been getting hot/cold sweats which isn't nice but I'm trying stick it out until my review nxt wk.My question is does Atomoxetine stopped diazepam from working as I do suffer from anxiety and I am only on a low dose of diazepam 2mg twice daily which I personally feel isn't enough for my anxiety and have been taking a couple more than prescribed but they don't seem to be working all??Ive searched for the answer to my question-Does atomoxetine stop diazepam from working and have no luck in getting an answer.If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it if they would let me know,thanx?
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Post by manson88 on Mar 10, 2016 17:54:40 GMT
Hi I've been on atomoxetine now for four weeks goin from 18mg to 60mg.i was originally on 90 concert class but was told thT wasn't working so I've been put on these.Thoughout the 4 was I've been feeling really sick and have been getting hot/cold sweats which isn't nice but I'm trying stick it out until my review nxt wk.My question is does Atomoxetine stopped diazepam from working as I do suffer from anxiety and I am only on a low dose of diazepam 2mg twice daily which I personally feel isn't enough for my anxiety and have been taking a couple more than prescribed but they don't seem to be working all??Ive searched for the answer to my question-Does atomoxetine stop diazepam from working and have no luck in getting an answer.If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it if they would let me know,thanx? Just remember that you have added a new medication it's going to take time to settle down.. Strattera more harsh than concerta.. Concerta more subtle and gentle. Where as strattera is more in your face, you will know there's something going you will warm and irritability.. By a word of caution when you are on strattera it would not take too much for you to have an altercation with someone so be careful...
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Post by blaze on Mar 13, 2016 8:36:29 GMT
Actually i find the compleate opposire from what you have said here, people have varrying responses to meds so it's not helpful to take about yours as if absolute. Strattera is much milder, calmer med for me than any stimulant. Hi I've been on atomoxetine now for four weeks goin from 18mg to 60mg.i was originally on 90 concert class but was told thT wasn't working so I've been put on these.Thoughout the 4 was I've been feeling really sick and have been getting hot/cold sweats which isn't nice but I'm trying stick it out until my review nxt wk.My question is does Atomoxetine stopped diazepam from working as I do suffer from anxiety and I am only on a low dose of diazepam 2mg twice daily which I personally feel isn't enough for my anxiety and have been taking a couple more than prescribed but they don't seem to be working all??Ive searched for the answer to my question-Does atomoxetine stop diazepam from working and have no luck in getting an answer.If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it if they would let me know,thanx? Just remember that you have added a new medication it's going to take time to settle down.. Strattera more harsh than concerta.. Concerta more subtle and gentle. Where as strattera is more in your face, you will know there's something going you will warm and irritability.. By a word of caution when you are on strattera it would not take too much for you to have an altercation with someone so be careful...
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Post by blaze on Mar 13, 2016 8:38:42 GMT
Re sickness - you shd allways eat before you take it, & side effect meds like omeprazol can be used if the sickness persists- but you shd ask dr about this. And you can allways call them while waiting for your appoint ote author="Gjc" source="/post/97388/thread" timestamp="1457527323"]Hi I've been on atomoxetine now for four weeks goin from 18mg to 60mg.i was originally on 90 concert class but was told thT wasn't working so I've been put on these.Thoughout the 4 was I've been feeling really sick and have been getting hot/cold sweats which isn't nice but I'm trying stick it out until my review nxt wk.My question is does Atomoxetine stopped diazepam from working as I do suffer from anxiety and I am only on a low dose of diazepam 2mg twice daily which I personally feel isn't enough for my anxiety and have been taking a couple more than prescribed but they don't seem to be working all??Ive searched for the answer to my question-Does atomoxetine stop diazepam from working and have no luck in getting an answer.If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it if they would let me know,thanx? [/quote]
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Post by mtb79 on Mar 31, 2016 9:18:38 GMT
I have been on 40mg Strattera for just over a week so far. No beneficial effects on my symptoms so far.
Side effects though, yeah I am getting a few of those. I am tired all the time, literally fall to sleep the second I lay on the sofa, sleep heavy all night too. Despite how much sleep I get, the tiredness is unrelenting. I get cold shivers down my spine even when warm. I get a horrible pressure like pain post ejaculation. Acid reflux too.
It feels very much like an SNRI so far to me.
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Post by phil on May 18, 2016 12:22:23 GMT
I have just started Strattera 40mg once a day as i'm only 3 days in there's nothing to report =)
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Post by phil on Jun 7, 2016 8:53:13 GMT
it seemed to kick in around 2 weeks then it's gone flat lol
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Post by mypineappledream on Aug 13, 2016 10:26:53 GMT
I'm starting today, a little bit worried after reading about everyones problems. This was apperantly the one for me as I also have tourettes.
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Post by amelia on Feb 5, 2017 12:19:18 GMT
I told my psych that I didn't really want to be on stimulants so as a first treatment (if I can get the shared care protocol in place!) we are trying straterra. What are peoples experiences of that compared with Ritalin? As the psych suggested one or the other.
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Post by jpsmc2011 on Mar 25, 2017 20:08:41 GMT
Hello,
I have started taking Strattera at 80mg and have had side affects of nausea, tiredness and low mood. My query is on average how long the side affects last for as I have had them for 7 days for people experience how long do the side affects take to ease of? Started on 40mg and had around 4 days of side affects before dose was upped to 80mg
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