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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 21:29:24 GMT
I'm full of ideas today!
I was just looking at the many happy returns banner on the front page of the forum and it got me to thinking, I used to always assume my changeable personality and hyperactivity was due to me being a gemini, you know the old star sign stereotype- chatty, active, changeable, mercurial, etc. but hey it turns out i've actually got ADHD!
So in an act of unscientific research, do we have any star sign clusters on the forum? Maybe i should make one of those poll thingys....
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Post by Mouse on May 19, 2009 21:36:28 GMT
Leo
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 21:37:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 21:43:37 GMT
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Post by lily on May 20, 2009 8:49:42 GMT
Virgo
General personality traits of a typical Virgoan: Positive: Helpful and gentle with the helpless, empathetic and sympathetic, humane, health conscious, charming and witty, affectionate and dedicated. Negative: Critical of laziness in others, demanding, untidy, somewhat a hypochondriac, moody, eccentric and anxious.
That is unbelievably spot on! Oh apart from the health concious bit haha. Unless you can class obsessing over weight but not actually doing anything about it health concious!
Ive just realised it sayings eccentricity is a negative aspect of being a virgo! Whoever wrote this is a moron cos I love eccentric people!
Lily x
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Post by roseblood on May 20, 2009 17:50:14 GMT
Virgo. Aren't some signs more common than others anyway, because there are more births at certain times of the year?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 18:59:11 GMT
Capricorn, nearly all Earth's.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 19:43:26 GMT
Who knows roseblood? I never said it was foolproof...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 21:49:38 GMT
Well, now i am confused, i just checked out the 13th star sign dave is referring to and according to the correct star sign dates amended to take the 13th sign into account, i'm really a taurus! But then you will all be back one star sign too, hmmm...
Take this description of a 'typical' Gemini: Gemini's have amazing brains. They store data like you wouldn't believe. Lots of people think they talk garbage but this is because their minds move faster than their mouth. Gemini's are generous, affectionate and impulsive and hate hanging around. Boredom and relaxing frightens them. If they're not on the move they go mad. They are great with kids because they never grow up themselves. If you have a Gemini friend, life will never be dull. They love to be respected; this is pretty hard because they're so changeable. In fact, they are often prone to losing their train of thought mid sentence.
Now swap Gemini for ADHDer, pretty similar huh? Maybe you've all got gemini as your rising sign? What am i talking about?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 22:12:03 GMT
See? And I bet you were thinking I was taking the pi err Michael. Well. No more than usual
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Post by roland on May 20, 2009 22:42:30 GMT
I was born on the cusp, 21st June, so I'm either Gemini or Cancer or both. Apparently those of us born on this particular cusp dislike tedious work, work best from home, are versatile, and we are an interesting blend of logic and feeling (those are not my own words), and we are inclined to be reckless and wayward. It also says we have a strong desire to take up new projects and switch occupations! ;D ;D ;D Sounds like ADHD to me ;D Now this bit is interesting (or at least it is to me I also read that this particular cusp combination produces more ambidextrous people than any other sign. I can use either hand equally well for most things.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 21:21:08 GMT
i'm a libra, but i made up my own cartoon character star signs because i think the real one's are boring. mines a rabbit
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 22:53:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 13:24:26 GMT
Roland,
you must be more gemini otherwise you wouldn't have entertained the idea of being both! Chortle.
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Post by roland on May 22, 2009 17:39:11 GMT
It depends which horoscope I like the best
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 20:53:54 GMT
I just dont get these horoscope thingies at all. Trust you Dave Dave please enlighten me. I grasp that there are for some reason 13 star signs but why? and what is the difference? Reasons on a postcard to: The Mad One Scotland PS Im in a bit of a nutty mood tonight, its my wee lassies bday tomorrow and Ive been away buying stuff for the party. Woohooo, im gettin a shot on the bouncy castle
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 21:09:54 GMT
Virgo. Ooh I see a pattern (on the chart, I haven't just been distracted LOL!) I am exactly as Lily discribes. A bit freaky really!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 21:25:31 GMT
Dear mad one For some reason the astrologers decided to shut up shop during the Roman era - but since the universe is in constant motion the constellations are not in the positions they were in Roman times. Due to 'progression' of the stars the '13th' constellation has been evident for thousands of years. Astrologers have ignored this for several reasons - the constellations are what is known to scientists as 'made up'. We see stars in patterns because humans like patterns - they have no real association.
- it would be inconvenient to explain to the hopeless romantics that beliieve in astrology about a change in the universe that appears changeless
- astrology is complete bullshit
I could go on - but people that believe in astrology tend to be not very understanding. HTH
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 21:45:12 GMT
LMAO Many thanks oh wise one!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 10:18:24 GMT
I an sandwiched between a serious discussion?!?! Must check for a second page in future. Fair enough dave but what if it's not horoscopes then maybe ecological issues effect when an adder I'd born. You know things like crops or weather....don't know what I believe, just playing devils advocate Happy birthday to your daughter. Madscot x
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Post by roseblood on May 23, 2009 13:29:18 GMT
Fair enough dave but what if it's not horoscopes then maybe ecological issues effect when an adder I'd born. You know things like crops or weather....don't know what I believe, just playing devils advocate My laptop won't load any search engines today for some reason but I did once find a brief article about a study that found that the more rainfall there was in their area when people were born/in their early years/something like that, the higher their chance of having ADHD was. Weird, eh. And no, it wasn't satirical.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 13:51:07 GMT
Perhaps my idea wasn't so far out after all
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 0:04:06 GMT
It's a beautiful clear night - so I thought I'd go outside to look for the stars
Blow me - right overhead was the big dipper.
And over there.......isn't that Elvis Presley?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 4:30:11 GMT
Thanks mrsmuddle. I have had a fabulous day with the kids, all of them had a great time and obv I did too. The kids were all screamin like banshees, it sounded like the carnival had set up next door Oh how I want to be 7
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Post by roland on May 24, 2009 5:44:08 GMT
Hi madscot did you play in the bouncy castle? planetdave, I saw Elvis a couple of years ago in a bookshop browsing in the rock & roll section mrsmuddle & roseblood the idea of environment and adhd is very interesting. A couple of studies have been done on this (probably more if only I knew) and they concluded that there is strong evidence that both genes and environment are involved in whether or not we're born with ADHD. Here's a link to an abstract in a special ADHD issue (December 2008) of the American Journal of Medical Genetics that concludes that PCB's are a risk factor: www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121465312/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0But I've also been thinking (along with many other things) about this epigenetics issue (ghost in our genes) and I've wondered about World War I and World War II. Those two cataclysmic events will surely reverberate down through the generations and maybe that's why ADHD seems to be on the increase (if it really is)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 9:25:19 GMT
I have a friend that is really into astronomy (I know - bit of a tangent One lovely evening this friend, my girlfriend and myself were walking down to the pub and friend was showing off pointing out the more famous stars and constellations. Girlfriend was entranced and had that 'ooooh' look on her face. Friend noticed this and said 'that's blah blah the centre star in Orions belt and do you see that red one flashing slowly?.............................that's a plane' Cue falling off pavement. Another time friend and myself were out in the local town which has a higher murder rate than Manchester. We were a tad inebriated but in fine form. Walking along a side street a big gang of lads were approaching on the other side - but they were boisterous and exuded danger. When we were about opposite friend said, in loud mock horror, 'No dave, I don't think they look like a bunch of c****!' Arrrrrrrrrrrgh! He has tourettes Carry on
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 9:57:53 GMT
you know, if higher rainfall is a factor in ADHD it might explain why so many scottish people appear to have it!
I definitely don't believe in horoscopes, although i did have one of those reports done based on your birthdate. it was delightfully non-specific in the kind of way that anyone could have read it and agreed with the bits that they liked, though intriguingly it said that while i was unlikely to be a 'joiner' the clubs that i did join would tend to be of the secretive kind.
ADHD branch of the freemasons anyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 10:20:55 GMT
that's fascinating roland, i've thought the same thing about the epigenetic impact of the wars, -although, i can't say i've come to any conclusions. -looking back at my grandad and further, i see a lot of adhd traits were already in the family, especially thrill seeking type behaviour, he was a bomb disposal expert, who did great with promotions, battles and medals etc... but never really prospered in business after leaving the army, and looking further back, at his father & grandfather, there are citations for bravery, there's even a plaque on the library wall of the fishing port he lived in, which commemorates the time he took a rowing boat out into a terrible storm, to save the lives of men who'd been shipwrecked. i don't have these traits but i know my brother does. (and i also suspect he has ADHD, but to a slightly lesser degree than me.) -basically with the utmost respect, i've wondered, if these were just normal guys who did brave things, or if there is an element of ADHD involved. -hmmm?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 10:23:51 GMT
---and i've just realised, that had absolutely nothing to do with horoscopes!!! ;D
-MM
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 11:15:37 GMT
Roland,
i'm not disputing the epigenics theory, but surely if events like wars could be a factor in ADHD then it should be at the lowest level in history? It is only in the recent era that military service has been a professional occupation, up until now every man since the year dot has had compulsory military training and would most likely have seen action in battle.
From a sociological/ cutural perspective, it could just as easily be speculated that ADHD has a connection to the fact we live in the Postmodern era. Constant influxes of information from a vast array of sources, our fast and fractured lifestyles, our constant juggling of time and identities, it could be said that ADHD is either:
A: a symptom of Postmodernism B: exacerbated by Postmodernism
If ADHD is on the increase, or if the need to diagnose it as a problem is more pertinent now than it ever has been, then it could be concluded that Postmodern life could be a significant factor.
Yes this has nothing to do with horoscopes either!
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