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Post by laura on Sept 7, 2009 20:09:49 GMT
Hi Jander, nice to meet you ;D
ive got that book (well its technically the library's but about 6months overdue ;D )
i thought it was good, very informative, i started to do some of the excercises like diaries, tables with your feelings in. it did help to write things down but i kept forgetting and got bored. so i just read it instead ;D
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Post by boo on Sept 7, 2009 22:33:46 GMT
laura your gonna have the library police knocking down your door soon giddy, i related to loads of what you posted there. a guy at work had asked me a question about some computer files the other day and i answered him and then started to explain my answer but i was also fixing the problem with the files at the same time and literally drifted off mid sentence. he waited for a bit and the asked the girl i work with 'does she always do that, not finish what she is saying?' and the girl i work with said, yeah pretty much. and i do, i do it here, my kids are always saying to me....... and.............? or........ what..............? or......... MUM..........? (like in an earth to mum sort of way) its like i finish the conversation in my head but not out loud, well, at least i think i do or maybe i just move on
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Post by laura on Sept 7, 2009 22:46:21 GMT
i always think ive finished out loud too, but i just finish it in my head, and just start mummbling to myself as im working things out ;D or i think ive told someone something but i havnt i just thought it. my bf and family have got used to it ;D
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 7, 2009 22:52:32 GMT
Giddy, laura and Zed, I feel exactly the same way... Who needs friends anyway? You have yourselves and the moths/dead spider remains on your ceiling and cold tea to keep you going..... I worked for many years in a petrol station giving it all the waffle and I can talk for england but take me out of the comfort zone and watch me crumble/retreat/hide etc.
Laura, I think madscot mentioned about meds seemed to turn his unwanted externalised thoughts around back into his brain so they never came out. My mother and I are serial commentators on what we are doing, unless I point it out. It's like we have to do it otherwise we will forget..... Most strange.
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Post by boo on Sept 7, 2009 23:02:15 GMT
its funny, cos i noticed my son do it the same day the bloke at work pointed it out. i think we all do it much more than we realise, but we kind of know what the end is so it doesnt matter, like some sort of half telepathy or something, but then there are other times that they do really need me to finish what i was saying and the earth to mum pops up
do you ever get that look from people, you know the look where they are just waiting and the eyebrows raise, waiting.......waiting......
andy i know just what you mean about the comfort zone as well and the commentary, i am always mumbling as i do stuff, like i have to say it out loud to work it through properly, but only really on stuff i need to really concentrate on or that is taking some working through, like i'll forget where i am if i dont
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 8, 2009 0:06:24 GMT
I think generally because I blather too much, it is more likely that they will have spiders webs and grey hairs on their heads before I actually make my er.........point?
I remember seeing once on television that if you want to learn something you should say it, write it and read it, but dont use colour markers... So, 3 ways better than just reading?
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 8, 2009 0:16:44 GMT
boo, andy comfort zone, i can be a real hermit sometimes, but too much time in my head, when, i get out and start chattin away to people, do feel a bit rusty, in my talking, small talk, conversation generally, i like chatting to people , but , takes a real effort when ure a home body:0) if i have say a day of work, like now on week annual leave, im bored at home, if i dont force myself out to interact with others, i become moody and repressed, yet, i enjoy my own company too, more to recharge my batteries from being blown around in the ''world outside the front door!!!!!!!!:0)
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 8, 2009 0:23:26 GMT
p.s. i end up waffling too, when on form, i sound articulate yet i often say really silly things and let myself down:(
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 8, 2009 0:24:33 GMT
I also find it hard to talk to even start bothering to talk to people because of a detachment feeling that I suffer from leading to a sort of conflict like "why am I bothering because after all, when I stop talking and leave the talk zone, it won't matter anymore...I will still be Mr. not really anchored to this planet and they will be what they are...." It's getting worse as well. The all or nothing mentality!!!!!!!!!
====================== Applied to non-intimate relationships, not sure about intimate ones lol. ......... The more that I see of someone, the more I want to see them.......but the less I see of them, the less I need to see them.........(I normally write it the other way around doh!) However, if I see someone after a few months, years, I can just act like it was only yesterday, BUT, why bother?
Bloody helll, you popped an edit and a new post in between the time I finished mine...........
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 8, 2009 0:34:27 GMT
u mean moi:) !!!!!!!!!im getting good at this typing stuff, quick and efficient lol!!!!!!
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 8, 2009 0:41:17 GMT
Yep Oh, well I need to go to sleep early for once due to blood test thingy in about 7 hours. goodnight!
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Post by rane76 on Sept 8, 2009 1:09:37 GMT
If I go out with a friend and a group of their friends i dont know, i will hardly say a word to any of them except my friend all night, this use to bother me when i was younger but now i just dont care.
I will never speak to anyone that is not attached to my social group either, unless they push passed me or knock my drink or something and didnt say sorry, then i can be quite verbal but thats just fight or flight i think and most of the time i cant be arsed to move.
and god forbid if some poor girl tries to talk to me. I can think of a few occations but the last one we got entwined with a hen night and this women started chatting to me (i must say she was cute, easily my type), asking me lots of questions, making an effort to talked to me, i just answered like a robot and when i sore a gap, where i was suppose to ask her stuff, i just said oh ok then bye and walked off. A mate who was watching told me later, she just stood there bemused for a few seconds.
I must come across rude but i just dont have many social skills with people i dont know, ok... and honestly, as i said earlier mostly i just cant be arsed either
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 8, 2009 21:33:37 GMT
hope ure blood test thingy went ok?
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 8, 2009 23:54:37 GMT
Rane,
Again, it all sounds familiar to me.. As the pressure goes up, the castle becomes under more of a siege. I think that there are possibly 2 levels of response to delicate situations, and obviously dealing with potential partners rofl is as high stress as possible. So, you have your normal method of living in comfort zone. Then level 1 kicks in where you become the target of someone's interest and then level 2 is where you just flake out and have to leg it!!!!!!!! because you know your brain will explode in a conflagration of cluttered, random, confusing speech. Well, that's probably how I would react.
Probably like this........woman detected........thought process......Hmmm.....omg .......a woman...........errrrrrrrrr.eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.(1 hour later) errrrrrrrrrrrr.errrrrrrrrrrrr. (woman looks at me) arghhhhhh omg, she looked at me errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. errrrrrrrrrrrrrr. LOL what can I say? Is there any other way of saying that the instability does me head in and I would rather just avoid every possible real life situation unless I have no choice and they literally walk up to me and say "ere luv, your pulled" HEHE.
It's really no way to start things though.......
Thanks for your interest, Hay. I lost about 16 litres of blood, even though I only have about 3.3, weird!!!!!!
I eventually went to sleep at about 3am ( i think ) Woke up at about 650am omg, was out of door at 750am groan. Slipped into hospital, had 4 coloured vials drawn for 10 tests before I realised it. Job done. Now, I have to prepare to deal with the results. Don't forget to watch this space. zzzzzzzzzzz, then tomorrow it's time for a root canal yes... I can't wait. The only good point is that it is preventative rather than dealing with chronic pain and abscess and with modern technology I should live! Blah blah blah, so what's new anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2009 9:25:56 GMT
hey andy... i remember you saying you were gonna tick a few extra boxes on the blood test request form? -did you?
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 9, 2009 18:07:40 GMT
ER, did I say that? oops.
Ya, about 1 hour before I left I added Prolactin, Free Testosterone, E2 (oestradiol) and SHBG to the printed Cortisol, thyroid, thyroid function, Total Testosterone(pretty pointless) FBC (complete blood count for anaemia) and Fasting glucose. Why did I tell you all that? I am like an open book lol, it just sort of slipped out. Why did I do it? Well, the doc won't be happy but I will respectfully explain my reasons.
I would be a better robot than human, that's for sure. Probably might end up like C3PO though with all of that arm waving and procrastination.
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Post by .... on Sept 9, 2009 18:32:42 GMT
Prolactin?
Do you think you're pregnant? Or are you just stressed?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2009 18:57:35 GMT
HAHAHAHA i love that you added all those extra tests!... they must have had to draw a pint & a half of blood out of your poor arm!...
-your GP's gonna kick your ass when he finds out!!! ;D ;D ;D
i had to go for a blood test, and i considered ticking the boxes for extra tests myself! but in the end i was too much of a chicken!...
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 9, 2009 20:27:39 GMT
Hehe scott, I actually looked at the wall at a picture of a dog and then she said The doctor should not write on the form as we have to cross reference with a booklet.
I said "haha"
Then she had 4 vials(about 100 ml if that) and I said "is that it?" Job done.
I think my doc understands my one year quest so far. Anyway, I have issues, so I can do things like that.........
Chrysallis......things are not always what they seem.......http://www.sharedjourney.com/malediagnosis/prolactin.html I have learned not to discount anything as if I do, that will be the thing that fails me.
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Post by .... on Sept 9, 2009 22:41:29 GMT
Lol. Sorry Andy. My bad.
Consider me educated on the matter.
(NB I hope your GP can't jump to conclusions as fast as me ;D )
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 10, 2009 2:18:50 GMT
Oh, you did not jump to conclusions did you? Nothing like the parallell adhd foot in mouth processoris there. I have done that soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many times in my life. It is so terrible in real life. On here, we are disclaimed and exempted and have diplotomato-ic immunity to anything yeah, oh yeah!!!!!!
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Post by boo on Sept 10, 2009 8:31:14 GMT
thank f* for that ;D
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 10, 2009 9:25:42 GMT
;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2009 10:32:50 GMT
Andy i tell you what they will find your a dam fine one of a kind!
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 10, 2009 15:07:21 GMT
Nooooooooooo I am not, It's just that my home planet is orbiting planetdave's. We are planning to conquer it one day, just don't tell him......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2009 20:06:09 GMT
Why dont you just visit planetdave with some cod liver oil or somthing and say hello. Have you been watching any stuff on telly lately about the great world wars what a waste my mrs did it in A level history but she cant remember am sure shes a secret ADHD drinker.
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