djaa1978
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Post by djaa1978 on Aug 19, 2008 7:51:06 GMT
Does Anxiety bring on ADHD, or the other way round? Is this “What came first the chicken or the egg”. I get ADHD because I am anxious, and I get more anxious because of the ADHD, and then ADHD gets even worse. Which came first?
I am also thinking if frequent binge drinking in my past, caused some of the problems above. I am now 30 and I am sure I had good concentration when I was 16 to 19 years old. But the binge drinking years from 16 to 26 has taken it’s toll.
What does everyone else think?
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Post by pinkbeauty on Aug 19, 2008 9:06:00 GMT
I think that with me, I am anxious and its because I've got ADHD. ADHD can't be brought on by anything, I've always had it. I think us ADHDers drink because without realising it we're self medicating. I drink for a number of reasons, it helps me sleep, relieves boredom etc. I know that drinking is not good and does cause problems, whether drinking causes anxiety, I don't know, but I'm sure it doesn't help!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 13:58:14 GMT
Its not jus drink either, self medicating comes in many forms, in my late teens I was a frequent user of hash, then later progressed to Herion and crack cocaine, but my staple in my late twentys was speed as it really helped me get things done, I wasn't so much of a abuser but more of a user, I took it to get things done, rather than to get high, addiction is always a problem for ADDers, the only reason I dont binge drink is i hate the taste of alcohol and the effect doesnt kick in quick enough, also take alot of painkillers to numb emotions, most of my maternal family (those effected by ADHD) do, I'm pretty sure its self medicating with the 40 cigarettes and 12 plus pro plus!!! TELL YOU WHAT IF YOU SHAKE ME I RATTLE ;D
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 24, 2009 10:11:08 GMT
Hmmm, people! EDIT - Er, I was a year out on the dates lol.............. :/
DJAA1978
I looked at your older posts to know you better. I found this post which I am replying to because I wonder about the chicken or egg issue as well.
How about this?
Imagine that you have a chronically (long term) mild elevation above optimal, of stress hormones for some reason, known or otherwise... What happens to the body's near-homeostasis (balance)? I don't know the answer myself but as the Amygdala panic centre glands in the brain order the secretion of stress hormone response you can imagine that what they perceive as an "issue to prepare for" could be causing long term issues due to their over-aroused state.
I reckon that if I was a private patient at say bupa, that symptom causes would have been deduced far quicker than the NHS.
That said, I can only think of the NHS as a service that should perhaps be renamed to the NES, national emergency service. What I am getting at, is that I certainly don't think that there is enough money around in the nhs, especially with the quangos draining the treasury etc.
However, I wonder if it's possible that quangos actually offer a better value for money due to pre-tax calculations? I will leave the accountants to mull over that.
How have I managed to get to 34, without any alcohol, drugs, smoking, tea/coffee (in normal therapeutic doses)
Asha, regarding addiction, for some reason I seem to be alcohol and caffeine addiction resistant. It makes no sense, but I had 10 units (250ml of whisky) on an empty stomach (and I don't drink at all) to experiment.
It does not really do anything for me. I hate the taste and the addiction during the few times in the last 9 months that I have tried 6-8 units or so, is non-existent. I don't get it at all....
Same with caffeine. I have had massive doses of caffeine. 10 teaspoons of nescafe in one cup, 2x in one day, one before bed.........Nothing happens.
I can drink2-3 cups of tea or coffee per day, for a week, stop, no trouble at all.
I am confused. IS this a dopamine reward system fail or something?
That said, can I really even have adhd and survive to 34 without selfmedication? arghhhhh, how weird.
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Post by laura on Aug 24, 2009 19:41:31 GMT
i used to binge drink to get confidence for years but i hate the taste of alcohol so dont drink much at all any more, perhaps once every couple of months, birthdays and christmas.
i have smoked since i was 14 tho and have never been able to quit for longer than 2 months (which i did this year) weed is another form of self medication for me it helps me eat and relax, and i have experimented with other drugs when out clubbing and find some just enable me to think so much clearly i can actually have a coversation without deviating from it or lose my trail of thought, so i suppose it is a kind of self medication. always needing high stimulation, i have to be doing something all the time or usually lots of thng at the same time, cigrettes fill a bit of the bordem, internet, and ive got my ipod on constantly i wont be suprised if i go deaf.
i also have many coffees and without a coffee redbull and a couple of pro plus i cant function at work when i have to start at 9am.
i think my ad/hd came before the anxiety, i dont think i would have been anxious without the feeling of being different.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 15:26:40 GMT
I think the anxiety is caused by the ADHD symptoms. I do also think that anxiety can heighten other symptoms and make them more noticeable, but I think the ADHD symptoms come first. Lets face it we are born with this syndrome and the anxiety, low self esteem, etc come through time because of what we go through as we march onwards through life.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 26, 2009 15:35:48 GMT
Well, can you imagine......born with adhd, how boring must it be in the womb if you have adhd.? The stress, sensitivity, then born into this world, the oppressive feeling must start asap?
So, anxiety could easily be present from age 2-3 once things become a problem. Then get older, have to tie shoelaces, read, write, learn.......arghhhhhhhhhh. Then adult, manage money, cook, eat properly, ..........house, bills, car, bills, food,bills, phone, bills, computer, bills..........
Surely adhders should be tested for heightened stress hormones as well by default?
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