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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2009 15:09:56 GMT
so why DO so many people / drs / websites / support groups seem ignorant of the fact that children with nervous disorders grow up and become adults with nervous disorders? i'm thankful for finding this board because there is almost nothing out there for adults with any of my 'problems' and it drives me crazy! i was trying to find, for instance, support groups for parents with autism and every site was just for parents of autistic children, there seemed to be nothing acknowledging that an autistic might *shock* live enough to marry and have children of their own - and it's like that with everything. it seems people think adhd, tourette's and autism are purely childhood conditions and the kids just disappear into thin air when they hit 18!
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Post by .... on Sept 22, 2009 20:42:32 GMT
I don't think anyone really believes, though they might like to think it, that they disappear. They become 'somebody elses problem' though!
For example, when people reach 18 alot of the things that were an issue for the educational systems start being the issue of the individual. It worries me that adult support does not seem to comprehensively take over where support for children drops off. From what I read its even harder for those diagnosed as adults - insulting when you realise they've been missing out on what support ought have been available to them!
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 22, 2009 21:15:59 GMT
Well, imagine, all of that "extra cost" to deal with that.
I think that the powers that are not... think it's better to brush under the carpet and let society take the strain of it all.....
The attitude has to change big time...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2009 21:31:15 GMT
Its also not as contraversial politicaly to leave adults in it up to there eye balls where as a child is diffrent can you imagine the outrage.
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Post by boo on Sept 23, 2009 8:35:54 GMT
i do agree there safe, but i also think there are just as many children who do not present with an acute MH problem that ARE being brushed under the carpet. Unless folk are causing problems to others, it seems to me that they can just get on with it.
so a child with adhd or aspergers who is causing chaos in the classroom or getting into trouble with the police (and even then its not a certainty) will get intervention and help and support where the quiet ones or the ones who are not quite ‘getting with the program’ or not quite fitting in and cant understand why or the ones who are a bit disruptive but can be dealt with just frequent telling off and punishments will be left dangling with their mental well being gradually being eroded away.
or the ones who have frequent anxiety but cannot let it show for fear of ridicule and turn it inwards causing more anxiety and ‘confirming’ their belief that they are weird freaks and misfits, perpetuating the cycle that will follow them through life until they feel enough is enough or fall off the edge and do get noticed
many people go undetected because they keep it to themselves, they function 'to a degree' and dont generally cause too many problems for 'others' and they dont want to admit to not really functioning so well as they maybe would see it as admitting to themselves and others that they are failing as a person, not knowing that they have a medical condition which can be and should be treated.
i think the sooner 'soft' mental health problems are recognised and treated more generally and with less stigma and not left to fester for years with children and adults alike being told to pull themselves together and get on with it or being sent away with a bunch of anti-depressants without tackling the root cause, the better it will be for many people who currently suffer in silence and a great deal of loneliness
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 23, 2009 9:06:53 GMT
The powers that be also love to "save the children" when they don't epicly screwup. The amount of fail may be really small, but usually when it does fail, it is epic. I really don't need to mention the events of even the last few months for those that dare to read news sources.
At the end of the day, there are many who need to be saved.....for themselves, their children and the sake of society. Oops, just taking off my rose-tinted spectacles now, arghh, its not meant to be like this, is it?
Boo,
I was and in reality am still quiet in real life unless in my comfort zone (probably need a portable pantry to go around in)
Give me a keyboard and a forum though and I can sometimes become..... Augustus Andy12345icus Keyboardicus the 10th - Armchair Imperator!
I spare no posts, I take no emails, I am Keyboardicus.
“ Quod te non frangit, te fortiorem facit”.
Anyway, now that I have worn out my keyboard legions and googled some latin, I am going to go and conquer some breakfast, although the toast might hurt me really bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 12:04:40 GMT
well said boo!
-that's why i agree there should be routine screening for all kids, so we don't wait 'till there's a problem, or miss out on the quiet ones.
in school we all had screening for hearing and eyesight. at the same time as they do that, they should check for dyslexia, dyspraxia, ADHD etc... Also, anxiety and depression affects lots of kids, children could easily be taught techniques to help them relax & increase their confidence which could help them throughout their lives!
who's going to do better in life? the kid who leaves school with 10 GCSEs and an anxiety disorder, or the one who leaves school with 7 GCSEs and a confident, enthusiastic outlook?
-matt
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 23, 2009 13:27:24 GMT
Inattentives/anxious types are the ones in the corner of the classroom, are they not?
Who notices them? I was actually a bit of a waffle at school, hmmmmmmm, nothing has changed. However, when all eyes were on me.......argh, run away.
I have posted before on other sites and I think this one about compulsory psychological evaluation every year, or two.......but oh dear that would need much more money and staff...........
Oh, but what would be the end results.......happier people? oh, well s£$£ we can't have that now, can we?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 21:29:45 GMT
I second that marvelousmatt, Boo hit the nail on the head. so many people I have spoken to in general have expressed the same concerns re the children who are not noticed or either not seen as a priority. The trouble is that their pain, anxiety and troubles are really affecting them just as much as the kids who are more easily identified because of the disruption etc We've just got to keep fighting their corner until hopefully things improve all round. I think things are slowly improving in the education system. Lets just hope all children with difficulties have someone to notice them and fight for them.
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Post by boo on Sept 25, 2009 21:55:38 GMT
now heres a radical thought, why dont some of these politicians let their moats get a little murky and divert the funds to standard testing or better yet, transfer the copious amount they spend on school league tables and the like, they perhaps wouldnt need them quite so much anyway if they identified the possible problems early enough? yeah, like thats likely huh.......well, i did tell you i live in la la land
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Post by .... on Sept 25, 2009 22:14:18 GMT
Heres an article that'll make you mad. I think I could get a little madder than I am about it if my brain would believe what it was reading but tbh I was having difficulty by the end of it. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8273616.stm
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 27, 2009 2:06:53 GMT
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