Just feel so desperate

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I am finding the whole ADHD diagnosis really hard to deal with. I just feel like I can never lead a normal life and never have been able to. I am glad I have a diagnosis in many ways but in others I just feel like this is it, I am like this for life and how will I ever get myself out of this black hole?

Sorry for moaning, dont' like to sound like I am going over the top but this is how I really feel.

Louise

[pinkbeauty]

Hi Louise, don't forget that you've already dealt with this your whole life without realising it. Don't you think that its better now that you're aware of why you have had the problems you've had etc? Maybe now you can start to find ways of combatting the problems? So it is a positive thing. Do you see anything positive in your diagnosis at all?

PB

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Yes I do feel better about finally having a diagnosis but I think that the depression which I am suffering along side it just makes things a lot harder for me right now. I am finding being a single mum to three children a real struggle and obviously that is stressful in itself without the ADHD. Sorry to moan, I know there are people who have far worse things to worry about.

Lou

[annie]

Hi Louise

You've certainly got your hands full being a single parent of 3 children. There's a strong genetic factor in adhd - has it ever been suggested to you that some of your children may have the condition?

Often when a child is dx one or both of the parent's goes on to think "do I have the condition." I know you said you would like a support group for parents who have adhd. Unfortunately there are very few groups for adults as it's only been recognised in the last few years that two thirds of children with the condition, go on to have problems in adulthood.

I just wondered if there was a support group for parents of adhd children. in your area. If there is I'm sure you would be more than welcome. Some of the parents there will be wondering if they have the condition and could well relate to the struggles you have.

It's quite unusual for a parent to be dx ahead of their children, so I wondered if you felt able to share how that came about. There are many adults on this forum who are struggling to get a dx and we are trying to build up information about, where in the country people can get treatment. Don't worry if you don't want to share this info, it's just nice to have you on the forum

There are other parents on here who I'm sure will be able to give you some support

annie

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Hi Lou, God i know how you feel girl. it's one thing having a dx isn't it, but another thing comming to terms with it. I haven't got a dx myself but since researching all this ADHD stuff in order to help my son who has now got his DX, i've come to the realisation that ADHD is what i've got aswell.. suddenly everything makes sense but it doesn't stop the feeling of grief i have for the life i could have had and it's no comfort knowing that 'this is it' the worse part for me is suddenly not know who or what i am or could have been.. i'm just questioning everything about myself and the people around me and driving myself nuts overthinking things. In a way it feels like i've been living a lie and It's all very unsetteling. I've been thinking of getting some sort of councelling, have you thought about that to help you come to terms with your feelings about your DX. That might be worth doing.

How old are your children, the only reason i'm asking is that you said you were feeling depressed and i wondered if this might be post natal or something. looking back i realise that i had low level post natal depression for about five years after my son was born but i didn't realise it, and hid it so well no one picked up on it. On the other hand bringing up one lively child single handed is hard enough let alone three lively children, so you must have some amazing coping stratergies and have huge inner strenghth. i think you deserve a pat on the back from me for that (( huggs ))

keep in touch lou, its good to talk.!!

Mel.

[haydreamer]

Hi Louise,

I can really empathise with how you are feeling, just to let you know that you are NOT alone,
i don't want to talk too much about me, me, me, but just to let u know, I am struggling with my undiagnosed add and the loneliness that it entails.
my mind set has been fluctuating from depressed to total despair, for a while now on and off, since waiting to be funded by my pct (adhd clinic) for 2 months then to be cruelly turned down , to have problems at work, with low self-esteem and confidence in my work issues.

Yesterday was a real kick in the guts as I was assessed for my nvq at work and the mentor told me I had confidence issues, little does she know the torment I feel being watched and pressured, I was nervous as hell, she said it was silly why I was so nervous, yes it was stupid, but that's because I am used to talking myself into failure, so instead of fighting and getting control of myself and become apathetic and go downhill, its a crap way to deal with pressure but I know its an impulsive and uncontrollable problem.
I love my job, so, it really hurts when you are basically seen as crap! but then I have a gloomy attitude anyway, so maybe I am making it out to be worse than it was, she gave me some positive points also!!
so at 30 years old, with what it feels like very few friends, cos I hide away from relationships and intimacy, no partner, living with
parents, not being able to drive, the only person that I trust is God , he is my only friend, my faith is for him only and the only person I can depend on at this time in my life. otherwise, i might aswell end my life, that's how i feel sometimes, but its selfish because my parents and sister and my friends that know me would miss me.
I just feel that I am suffering for a purpose and one day , he will show me when I come through the light at the end of the tunnel, my journey will be for a meaningful purpose.

[Deleted]

hi lou, see it as a clean sheet of paper, i do now but initially for a few weeks after i was diagnosed i was just angry ,and also felt sorry for myself .Now a few months down the line ,with my meds and my determination to lead a more productve life I now seem to be taken control of myself,rather than rely on the help of family and friends.Another thing to realise is having adhd has a lot more positives than negatives it just take time to adjust. by the way have you been put on any medication, im on concerta and have found it to be a little white miracle.keep your chin up and remember adhd is a gift that you got to figure out how to use when you do you find the darknessof depression will fade into the background and you will suddenley find yourself bathed in sunshine, if you heads done in or you have any question please feel free to email me

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Thanks for everybody's messages, it really has helped me an awful lot.

Louise

[annie]

HI Haydreamer

I know your PCT knocked you back with regards to a referral to a specialist clinic. They said you would be referred for a standard assessment to a local psychiatrist - any news about that yet?

annie

[haydreamer]

hi Annie, thanks for your concern , your helpful as always, I personally called the reception and asked exactly how long I would have to wait, they are (team of doctors) apprarenlty meeting tommorrow, should hear in 1 week I hope, then will start the whole
process again!
seems like going back in past, went to same place when I was 21, going a full circle

i will certainly keep you and forum posted as I hear more news, hopefully so others can follow the journey and hopefully help them

H

[annie]

Well done for contacting the clinic - at least they know you aren't going away.

Hold them to that 1 week - if you haven't heard from. contact them again!! Do keep us informed about how it's going. Who knows, perhaps this "standard assessment psychiatrist" will know about adhd

You have to think about what you're going to take to this appointment, as evidence about your history. Let us know if we can help

annie

[roland]

Hi Haydreamer,

I'm sorry to hear your assessment for your nvq's was painful. You said that your mentor gave you some positive points as well, so I'm wondering if you feel up to listing them here?

I'm asking because us adhders seem to only really hear negative criticism about ourselves (I know I do that) and for some reason we have a tendency to dismiss compliments so I'm thinking it might be helpful if you list her positive comments so that we can help you remember them.

BTW: I agree with Annie; contact your PCT in one week (Wednesday, 12 November at 3 p.m.--giving them enough time to get over lunch).

If they don't have news for them, ask them for a date, and contact them again.

Another BTW: AADD has sent the Chief Executive and Medical Director a letter each, so now they've both heard of the NICE Guidelines.

[haydreamer]

Hi Annie, Roland,

Annie- about the evidence, my GP forwarded my original 5 page letter to the Mental Health assessment place and I will print perhaps some posts here on the forum and Roland's NICE letter. Any suggestions for other evidence?

I was in a bit of state after my nvq thing, it triggered off something in me and I just couldn't hold myself up, I was dwelling on the negative, as Roland suggested and saying to myself as I looked at the clock, can't wait until this is over, then I become apathetic. I just felt pressure when their was no need to feel any at all, I am crazy!!

she said well Hayley it didn't go to bad, then she gave me some constructive advice
I need to plan ahead more
I need to be more aware of what is happening not just in my section but as a whole picture (us adders like to focus too much detriment to what others are doing)
I need to remember just to gather everything ie materials up together without having to run back and forward.
Then she said and that is what has been going around my head 4 two days you need to be more confident and stop flapping !! as people expect you at NVQ level to be confident and we have high expectations, I am sure i've imagined too much the worse, but I feel really ashamed, so embarrassed and I got home and just cried , my pride is hurt.

My work is the one thing, I want to hold onto, I've left so many jobs before, I can't mess this one up too! I have a study day on friday and Its silly but I have to go in, imagining they have all talked about me and thinking why should she do this course , yet the theory is easy, I am more academic than practical anyway, the paperwork is the good bit:)

sorry for having a moan, I will phone up on Wednesday 12th Nov and find out my date. Also am glad the Chief Executive and Medical Director got a letter and now know of NICE. I'll keep you both informed.

Haydreamer

[roland]

Hi Haydreamer,

First of all I want to stress that I can understand and even empathise with your reaction to your mentor's comments. I've been there myself. In fact, in the interests of being really honest, I am still, and probably always will be, hypersensitive to perceived criticism.

Having said that, however, and after reading your post very carefully and examining your mentor's comments, from an outsider's perspective, I actually don't see anything bad about them. The way that you have reported what she said comes across as normal, standard feedback, and could even be seen as quite helpful. What you have recorded here would not lead me to conclude that your job is at risk.

Now I recognise that I wasn't present during the session, and you may have picked up something from her posture and tone of voice that I cannot see. And in no way, am I discounting your feelings of hurt and shame, your pain comes across clearly.

But I am wondering if you criticise yourself far worse than your mentor does. Are you perhaps holding yourself to impossibly high standards? Could that be one reason why you react so strongly when other people tell you they have "expectations?" And I'll admit here that the one word "expectations" can send me into a panic, and I say that to let you know that you're not alone in this.

Now, I'm going to quickly add here that there is absolutely nothing wrong with having very high standards for yourself, and in fact, once you have learnt to control your reactions (and it is possible to do that), having high standards will be very useful, because they will mean that you will out perform all your peers!!

So how do you learn to control your visible reaction to criticism (constructive or otherwise) so that you have the appearance of confidence? I'll explain why I've stressed certain words in a minute.

1. Go back to that moment when you first began to feel ashamed during your assessment, and try to remember what thought or thoughts immediately preceded that feeling, because feelings are triggered by thoughts. Then examine that thought and see if it was accurate, and I'll bet it wasn't.

Try to do this everytime, you are flooded by negative feelings, but don't do this exercise as a way of beating yourself up. Instead use it as a way to beat the c**p out of that nasty, mean inner critic that keeps whispering in your ear that you are worthless.

2. Now we come to visible reactions, and appearance of confidence. I'll let you in on a secret here, if you look confident, everyone will think you are!! You know why? They don't feel confident either, and as a result are easily deceived by appearances.

So how do you look confident? The first thing I would suggest is to look at how you are holding your shoulders (us women tend to carry our anxieties and hang-ups on our shoulders). Look in the mirror (and if you feel ridiculous at this point, then you're listening to that nasty inner critic instead of kicking it in the guts) and think about work, then try to drop your shoulders down and back, and hold your head up, take a deep breath and try to drop them lower and back. Practise doing this so that you walk into work on Friday with your head up.

BTW I would address your assumption here that everybody will have been talking about you in the meantime, except I feel that this post is probably already too long (am I listening to my own critic?) but you can probably already guess where I would go with that anyway.

Hope this has been helpful!

[haydreamer]

Roland -Your post has been very helpful and I know that I do hate criticism with a vengence!

she wrote to me:''Today I worked an early shift with H in order to do her holistic observation. We worked together for the whole of the shift which involved all aspects of personal care, client observation, providing food and drink etc.
H was very nervous and I think this affected her performance. Although she delivered all care satisfactorily I felt there were some gaps in her knowledge.
I fed back to H briefly after the shift and explained that I felt her planning needed to be improved upon. She needs to make sure that she has all required equipment before starting to wash an individual.
Whilst cleaning an individual who had been faecally incontinent, I needed to remind her several times about not contaminating the packet of wipes, with a dirty glove. H took my criticisms on board and explained that she felt her actions were caused by nerves. I will recommend to Hayley that we work another shift together to give her the opportunity to improve on the things mentioned above, and also I will set her some written questions which I will send by e-mail.
''I understand that you were very nervous and that this affected your performance. As I explained at the time I feel there are some gaps in your knowledge so I think it would be helpful for us to work another shift together and I have also set some questions which I have attached.
I have every confidence that you will be succesful in your NVQ, but as you have only been working as an health carer for a short time it may take you a little bit longer than those who have more experience.''


I went out late to see a friend before the day, also ended up not preparing, so this did not help and getting up at 6am, don't work in the mornings, but had to work a morning and I have trouble with my motivation also, am aware of so many defects, anyone concentrate on all their bad points constantly, ahhhh!!!!

I agree that I also am very hypersensitive to people's moods, criticisms and I am mostly hard on myself I put high expectations on myself and I know during the assessment I sowed doubts in my head and then I talked myself into so much crap that I did not relax and enjoy the experience. I am aware of people watching me, that is hard, trying to get on with my work , but also not giving a toss what others are thinking, doing, what they think, expect of me, again Expectations of myself!! Dreaming up thoughts, over anaysling, over thinking, over dwelling, over dramatising, self-pity, apathy, this is ME!!

Roland, I will try and put the confidence things into practice, I'll be an actress for my next shift and this time, I'll show the x&*****' that I CAN do it!!


I hate myself for not having any fight or backbone in me, am I a weak person,? but i don't think so, cos battling as us ADDERS, we have to be strong to cope with all our ''s***t '' why do I not get control and just stop being so on edge, that is my problem I am on EDGE and never relax.

Anyway outcome- having another shift with assessor. so gonna do it:) thanks for your help!!

[roland]

Hi Haydreamer,

How did it go on Friday?

BTW your mentor said that you delivered all care satisfactorily, and that's despite your understandable nervousness and as well as the fact that you haven't been doing this job for very long, so I think that you actually deserve congratulations!!

That also means that you are not weak or lacking fight and backbone, because despite all the nasty messages that your inner critic was sending you trying to make you fail, you delivered all care satisfactorily! That's called "fighting back." Well done H!

[haydreamer]

Hi Roland, thanks!!

just an update, Friday actually went ok, my assessor wasn't there,:)but just had
more of a study day, so more theory than practice, and I felt confident on friday.

then today, had another assessment- I am in a better mood today:) I fought my nasty critic all day!!
and actually it did go much better! she left at 1030 , and didnt stay for the full 6 hours, yippee!!, She's nice but we don't gel in personality, she also knows more than me and I always feel inadequate to certain people which is weird.
I still ''flap'' apparently, so, I made a joke and said my mother does too and its in the genes!!, I take myself too seriously sometimes and I always feel on edge, I am just sooo glad its over!

also I rang up the reception about my psychiatrist appointment and I am having the same pyschiatrist as I did when I was 21,was suprised he is still working there! He is on leave but
I will be definately be recieving a letter in the post next week,

so for more news watch this space:)

[Mouse]

One of the positives of being diagnosed is that at least you can reclaim all the time you might otherwise have wasted wondering why the hell you couldn't do the simple stuff that everyone else just got on with and which just made you feel so ruddy frustrated.

You still feel frustrated at times/often/ maybe even all the time, but at least you have a reason for why some things seem like mountains.

this means you can redirect your efforts from pondering the inexplicable to trying to find strategies that work for you!

You wrote "I agree that I also am very hypersensitive to people's moods, criticisms and I am mostly hard on myself I put high expectations on myself and I know during the assessment I sowed doubts in my head and then I talked myself into so much crap that I did not relax and enjoy the experience. I am aware of people watching me, that is hard, trying to get on with my work , but also not giving a toss what others are thinking, doing, what they think, expect of me, again Expectations of myself!! Dreaming up thoughts, over anaysling, over thinking, over dwelling, over dramatising, self-pity, apathy, this is ME!! "

Summarises the feeling that I think may be common to a lot of us - that sense of both caring desperately about something or a situation and also NOT caring about it at the same time.

Does that make any sense? that the two can run alongside each other. Maybe it's just me. Same with pessimism and optimism - always had the two running concurrently - which makes not sense at all if you think about it..

From your posts you don't sound l ike a person without fight or a backbone. I'd say you are resilient to a degree that most non-Adders just can't comprehend. That's how I prefer to think of it anyway.

With best wishes

[Deleted]

Hi Mouse,

After reading your reply to haydreamers internal conflict, regarding caring about a situation and Not caring at the same time. I struggled to remember that Psychological term which is: "Cognitive Dissonance"

A quote from Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The "ideas" or "cognitions" in question may include attitudes and beliefs, and also the awareness of one's behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, or by justifying or rationalizing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors.[1] Cognitive dissonance theory is one of the most influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology

Dissonance normally occurs when a person perceives a logical inconsistency among his or her cognitions. This happens when one idea implies the opposite of another. For example, a belief in animal rights could be interpreted as inconsistent with eating meat or wearing fur. Noticing the contradiction would lead to dissonance, which could be experienced as anxiety, guilt, shame, anger, embarrassment, stress, and other negative emotional states. When people's ideas are consistent with each other, they are in a state of harmony or consonance. If cognitions are unrelated, they are categorized as irrelevant to each other and do not lead to dissonance.

A powerful cause of dissonance is when an idea conflicts with a fundamental element of the self-concept, such as "I am a good person" or "I made the right decision." This can lead to rationalization when a person is presented with evidence of a bad choice. It can also lead to confirmation bias, the denial of disconfirming evidence, and other ego defense mechanisms.

Like you said, this feeling is common to most if not all people.

I have had the same dichotomies of mind to deal with at work, just like yourself Haydreamer, and I am super-confident in my ability to drive an excavator (20 years) But still, the self-doubt on certain tasks, the social awkwardness, feeling pressured while being watched. I have found that the older I get the easier it becomes to me to be more confident in my operating abilities.

To the point now where I show off with it, which again causes Cognitive Dissonance in my mind, as I hate conceitedness, even in myself.

Plus it's risk taking behavior. Pulling tricks in a 20 ton excavator can have disastrous consequences I all too often fail to consider at the time. Although the risk is calculated! ;D

Again this causes Cognitive Dissonance, because a part of my sense-of-self (modesty) is conflicting with a contradictory behavioral aspect of me (Narcissism)

And from another angle: Wanting to practice Responsibility (Not taking risks) - But exhibiting Irresponsibility (taking risks)



This post has got me to thinkin about a correlation between the "amount" of Cognitive Dissonance over time, as experienced/felt by someone without AD/HD as opposed to the amount of it experienced/felt by someone with AD/HD.

I would of thought there would be a significantly higher amount of cognitive dissonance in people with AD/HD due to the executive functions not allowing you to become the fully realized person you would like to become, either through forgetfulness, impulsivity, lack of clarity, poor focus and organization.

I'll start another topic on this.

Take care all

Craig

[haydreamer]

Thanks Mouse, Craig,

I was pleasantly suprised to find your posts, they are most welcome.

self- pity winge coming........
I have just had an argument with my dad, because I burnt his lasagne, he was very tired from working, however, he said some cruel things out loud, like I was absolutely useless, and no man on earth would ever put up with me. I am sure he didn't mean to say these things, but the thing is, he like myself doubt whether I will ever find anyone to accept crazy and weird self-pitying me. My dad feels he has to look after me all his life, I am 30 years old and I feel shame and a failure, no-one in my family understands me:(

The truth whether I have to face it or not remains that I am doubtful that I could ever be a wife, I know of no man who could put up with my mood swings and my daily self- doubting. I don't personally feel it is fair actually to destroy someone else's life with my traits.

I am beginning to come around to the idea that I will remain single and in solitude forever, and accept my life will not be like my friend's , husbands, partners, babies ect. Unless I marry an ADHD male, I have no hope:0)

Some great insightful comments, Mouse said

''Summarises the feeling that I think may be common to a lot of us - that sense of both caring desperately about something or a situation and also NOT caring about it at the same time. ''

That's exactly me at work, wanting to be calm and relaxed and to seem I am enjoying my job, remaining professonal at the same time, not caring what others think yet caring,

cos I am in healthcare again its back to the contradictary behaviours, like Craig's summary ''Again this causes Cognitive Dissonance, because a part of my sense-of-self (modesty) is conflicting with a contradictory behavioral aspect of me (Narcissism)'' I know where you are coming from here and my 'internal conflict' as you explained using the cognitve
Dissonance was very interesting.

Thanks again, I will write more soon, just think an early night is in order:)

Take Care x

[roland]

Hi Haydreamer,

Your post raises an interesting question for me. Yesterday, I was in a meeting that was very productive and I felt that my opinions were respected. I came home feeling buzzed, and then I turned on my emails, and saw a mean-spirited email that questioned the value of my input to another group that I'm part of. And as soon as I'd assimilated the email, I began questioning the validity of my good feelings about the day's meeting. It was quite a struggle for me to separate the negative feelings aroused by that one email from the positive ones I felt after the meeting. I'm telling you this to illustrate that just because one person vents their own frustrations by turning on us, does not make us failures.

In fact Haydreamer, I'm going to suggest another way of looking at the arguement you had with your Dad. If you were not a strong person, your dad would not bother arguing with you. Do you know what a scapegoat is? Here's a link to an interesting article about the history of the meaning of scapegoating: philosophybooks.suite101.com/article.cfm/a_brief_history_of_the_scapegoat

Think about this, if the villagers described in the article chose a weak goat as their scapegoat, it would have collapsed on the village green instead of running off into the wilderness with their sins on its back, and then they would have been stuck dealing with their own sins after all.

Anyway, last night my husband helped me talk myself into being positive again, and btw Haydreamer, I'm moody with a hair trigger temper, and somehow my husband puts up with it. One day when you're not looking, the right man will show up.

Oh another BTW if your dad has to look after you, how come you're cooking the lasagna? Next time he starts grumbling, tell him to develop a taste for burnt objects (that's what my family has had to do), and then leave the room so that you've got the last word in. Don't slam the door though, smile sweetly at him, and then gently close it behind yourself. And if you're hungry, either make sure you take some of the food with you or go out and get some.

And I've written and sent a letter of resignation to the group from which I got that rotten email.

[Deleted]

Wow roland, I'm shocked

I can't imagine anybody pulling you down for lack of input. You've been nothing but pro-active and supportive in my experience on these boards.

It's a shame for them, I think they've lost a valuable member!!

[haydreamer]

Thanks Roland, you've been supportive as always,

It's their loss that you've resigned, as with Craig I too am shocked as you are a valuable member for this forum.

Its interesting how you came away positive and then got that horrid email, its such a contradiction.

Well, the argument has been forgotten, as with all our family disputes and luckily the lasagne has gone, so, I will no longer have the opportunity to try my burnt look again

And as for a man who comes along one day, well I'll just hope he can cook

As for the scapegoat, I was aware of what it means, another way of other people burdening their crap basically on someone else, as they often don't want to look inside themselves and see their own miserable faults.

[annie]

Hi Haydreamer

Had any news yet about your "standard" assessment? You shouldn't have to wait much longer surely

annie

[haydreamer]

hi Annie,

Still waiting , phoned on the 12 th November, they said the letter would arrive in a few weeks, so if it has not arrived by 26th nov, i'll phone up and ask why??

[haydreamer]

just to add , I understand that Witshire PCT are being unhelpful with refering people to Bristol clinic with comorbities, at least hope that's correct! just if I assist the pyschiatrist sends me through to wilts pct, what is to say they wont turn me down again, perhaps Avon pct would be a safer bet, as not sure i have got any more strength to keep being kept waiting like this

[annie]

Hi Haydreamer

Am I right in thinking your PCT said they wouldn't fund you to the Bristol clinic but would get an adult psychiatrist from your local Mental Health Trust to see you for a standard assessment? This was mid Oct. Who did you ring to find out when this appointment would be and what did they mean the letter would arrive in a few weeks time - the letter from the PCT to the MHT? I can't believe the MHT don't have your referral letter yet!!

Obviously Wiltshire PCT don't understand that in a significant number of cases, adhd is the core dx but is likely to be accompanied by depression anxiety etc. It seems strange your local MHT is only able to see people with "standard" adhd - don't think there's such a thing!!

annie

[haydreamer]

Hi Annie, sorry I don't think I made myself clear, the MHT have already received a letter from my GP as reccomended by the PCT. So the letter has been received now waiting for my appointment!!!

''Am I right in thinking your PCT said they wouldn't fund you to the Bristol clinic but would get an adult psychiatrist from your local Mental Health Trust to see you for a standard assessment?''

you are correct in thinking here-The mental health team got my letter from the gp on 23rd oct, The mental health team discussed me in a meeting on the 5th nov, I phoned the secretary on 12th Nov and was told to wait for a letter for my appointment for the standard assessment,

hope this makes sense:)

[annie]

Thanks for that Haydreamer

Well at least they've got the letter - let's hope it's not too long before you have this "standard" assessment. When you do have the appointment, do explain to the psychiatrist that adhd is more likely to come with co-morbid conditions such as anxiety depression etc.

You're right to say you will ring them back in 2 weeks - don't let them sit on it!!

Good luck

annie

[haydreamer]

thanks Annie:0)

When the appointment date comes through, I will prepare a good case of evidence. Starting to get it clear now what i'll need, lll keep u up 2 date.