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Post by han3617 on Oct 13, 2011 20:50:13 GMT
I've been asked to speak at an ADHD awareness day next month, and was just wondering what you would like to tell people about ADHD. So if anyone has any ideas I'd be glad to hear them, to add to what I have already. Things like:
* Common misconceptions about ADHD * How ADHD varies with age * Any ways ADHD differs in women
I believe the audience will be teachers, GPs, or anyone with a professional interest in ADHD. So if you've ever thought "I wish people knew ................ about ADHD!", let me know and I'll attempt to tell them!
Thanks! Heather ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 20:56:34 GMT
That there is an inattentive form. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 21:04:15 GMT
- it's not just bloody kids
- it can seriously ruin your life
- it doesn't stop you having a great sense of humour but anyone wot looks at me funny is going to get a slap
and so on and so forth just to make sure - that last one was in jest
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Post by han3617 on Oct 13, 2011 21:06:11 GMT
Great - thanks! Keep them coming please - I will note them all down, and try to get as many points as possible into my 15-minute timeslot!
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Post by kakema on Oct 14, 2011 17:22:21 GMT
Clever inattentives don't always get spotted at school, or not until their marks start to drop. By that point, poor self-esteem is well engrained because they know they should be able to study/learn but they can't.
Not all ADHD people are unemployed academic failures with a mess of failed relationships behind them (but that can happen a lot).
ADHD people hate it when people assume they're going to cock up and work around them. Unconscious bias about mental illness - eg assuming a person who's experienced stress or depression can't cope with any form of work pressure - is as discriminatory as assuming a gay person will put his hands down random colleagues' trousers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2011 21:01:18 GMT
True oohyshiny. I would like people to understand ,we may do things differnetly and in a slightly more complicated way but we get to where we want to be just the same. I would like people to not look down on us but admire our creative thought process and quirky nature instead of knockin stuffing out of us. Recognise it in schools when children are attention seeking and need praise rather than beibng naughty etc. I was never naughty or rude but I was attention seeking thats why it never got picked up till aduts years, which were harder than childhood as parents potect you when younger. Mine did anyway they always knew somthing wasnt quite right. But because I tried so hard they just gave me the wonderful support. Now its my turn to re- pay the favour..
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Post by Mouse on Oct 15, 2011 13:33:48 GMT
That the stress of maintaining a front in order to fit in/survive takes its toll.
That we can bounce back but maybe not quite back to the same level. Whether we survive long term depends on our levels of resilience and perserverance.
Some of us expend so much more mental energy and effort than you do, just to keep up. Other times you can't keep up with us. But I can't predict which will apply on any given day!
That just because my way of getting the job done is not perhaps quite as conventional as yours, it ain't necessarily wrong, and I am not thick.
That I have often seen the solution to a problem while you still haven't twigged there's a problem! And also that sometimes/oftens this brilliant* brain can't see the wood for the trees!
That going back over the same ground is so intensely and painfully boring. I've may have found the answer but can't necessarily be bothered with explaining how I reached it. Been there done that! You've either got to be a pretty special person for me to want to go through that or be my boss!
That, for me, boredom is experienced like a physical pain - and 'bored to tears' is a real thing / actually happens.
That I've probably gone off on tangent.
*not going to be modest today. But otherwise I am plagued by self esteem issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 14:17:49 GMT
So true mouse so true.
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Post by odat on Oct 16, 2011 4:49:50 GMT
There's some brilliant answers in here. Well said people!
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Post by goosey on Oct 16, 2011 16:59:04 GMT
That it effects adults AS WELL as children..... .....due to the preconceived opinions that it's a "naughty boy" syndrome.....some folk are too embarrassed or ashamed to admit to it.....which needlessly complicates life due to living a lie. ....if it was a physical illness / injury - support would be unquestioned A final point - all the adders I've met so far are a great bunch of people who are very supportive, very creative, very determined and bloody great fun ;D
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Post by kakema on Oct 16, 2011 18:17:01 GMT
That whole 'going back over old ground' thing has been why I fail job interviews. I just give the answer and wait for the next question - showing my 'workings' of how I got to it is unutterably boring, particularly if I can't remember because it all just seemed to whirr and click into place. Detail? Sod that for a game of soldiers!
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Post by han3617 on Oct 18, 2011 16:35:32 GMT
Thanks for your replies ;D Sorry I seem to turn up here occasionally and then disappear again - but I honestly do keep forgetting about it - and can never remember which topics I've commented on anyway! (I have fibromyalgia too - which only adds to my general level of forgetfulness / stupidity )
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Post by snickerz on Oct 19, 2011 7:14:06 GMT
That we are the fucked up x-men lol And im wolverine We are the most determined bunch of people your ever likely to meet, we just want acceptance, not the adhd is just a kids thing. Or adhd is just an attitude problem Or you just need to be more organised Or we dont want to treat you with mph we think anti depressents will do
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Post by han3617 on Oct 20, 2011 6:54:44 GMT
"...Or we dont want to treat you with mph we think anti depressents will do" Aaargh to this one! If you gave me back my mph I wouldn't BE depressed, and might be able to get on with my life again!!!
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Post by snickerz on Oct 20, 2011 17:16:36 GMT
then they wonder why you may get obsessed with getting the meds, cos you want to get FUCKING better and not exist in the car crash of your life. Sorry we cant give you mph but will dish it out to kids like fucking sweets
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Post by adamv on Nov 7, 2011 2:57:56 GMT
All I ever hear is about children with ADHD my Methylphenidate instructions say Child on almost every line and the only time it says anything about adults is "Methylphenidate has not been tested on adults" Something need to be done about the above. Would be lovely to know if anything really is being done about this. Also all we here about ADHD is negatives. We never hear of the plus side of ADHD things like being able to hyperfocus or our ability to come up with ideals and multitask faster than your average person. ADHD has many positives. If teachers and GP's are aware of the positives of ADHD they could be very beneficial to children's learning. A grate example of this is learning to hyperfocus on school work and being able to do things faster, and better than your average person without AHDH, all you have to do is make subjects interesting. It would also result in good behaviour and a better chance in life when your an adult its a win win. But teachers and GP's are more concerned with treating the negatives than helping the child develop the positives to there advantage. This is normally because he main concern and reason ADHD is brought up is "behaving badly" and its the first thing they want to "treat". By doing so they ignore the positives that can make a person with ADHD successfully. Again it would be awsome to know if anything is being done above the above. Or are they still going to use the good old "lets drug them up" and ignore the issue approach. Also things like mortgage, disability living allowance, driving licence, insurance premiums etc need to be addressed. How is it we can have a driving licence taking off us and be denied a mortgage or loan but we cant claim any benefits to help with things like travel? We seam to get more taken away from us than given to us. Allot of people with ADHD struggle to keep a job yet when they find a job, they get no help, when they finish a job its back on job-seekers to get another job to get kicked out of. There should be some help system here. Would be nice to know if anything is being done about this also. A prime example of what i mean by no one knowing much about adult ADHD or even ADHD in children and focusing on negatives is the NHS. Just look at this www.nhs.uk/conditions/Attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder/Pages/Introduction.aspx The NHS has no idea its a disgrace reading the NHS site they know nothing, and do nothing about it They even go into talking about medication before even saying anything about alternatives such as diet and exercise.
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Post by han3617 on Nov 19, 2011 17:16:03 GMT
Very good comments - particularly re the dual standards and problems with jobs! I am doing my talk on Monday morning - and I will definitely mention this and about focussing only on the negatives The awareness day is primarily for teachers, but I will raise as many points as I can - thanks to everyone for their contributions! ;D Heather (who would be bricking it at this point, if I wasn't even more worried about photographing someone's wedding tomorrow!
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Post by Mouse on Nov 19, 2011 23:26:33 GMT
Good Luck for tomorrow and for Monday! Mouse
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2011 12:17:58 GMT
How about the more than often completely overlooked damage that untreated adhd can do over time with regard to health problems such as adrenal fatigue, IBS, hormone imbalances, gluten sensitivities, allergies etc. etc. ....... psychotropics will not adress these issues & they need to be screened for & treated seperately. Failure to do this leads to a minimisation in the effectiveness of any ADHD medication & therefore a far lower opportunity to manage the condition satisfactorily, the person continues to battle with underlying health issues which until investigated properly continue to severely lower their quality of life... when ADHD is diagnosed all possible underlying health issues should be fully asessed as by products of the condition!!
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Post by kakema on Nov 20, 2011 16:37:03 GMT
I hadn't heard before that ADHD can cause these things - have you get any references?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 12:56:12 GMT
Personally i would like to add (no pun intended) that there are those of us who are good parents and have children who are good and clever but who just need a little extra help to focus. We are not all chavs with kids who cant string a sentence together or have kids who stab other kids and then blame it on their ADHD.
Its a real and sometimes well hidden condition that goes unnoticed even by those who have the condition.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 16:48:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 16:53:33 GMT
Also Robbie Williams has ADHD & he is having hormone treatment now which wasn't picked up till just recently
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 16:55:26 GMT
Also Robbie Williams has ADHD & he is having hormone treatment now which wasn't picked up till just recently Hormone treatment! so they finally are linking it to hormonal imbalances!? Can you tell me where you got this info and more about it please thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 8:41:39 GMT
Ummm...sorry - not convinced. The last one, which references Platt, adds nothing - having looked at his website, I'm not surprised he lost his licence. The first one is based on a study of 31 children and then claims mostADHD kids have IBS. Not buying it without more research, and certainly not without looking at the conditions in the study. The middle one just looks like a special interest group with lots of ideas and not very much science. Jury's still out, far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 14:22:26 GMT
As far as IBS goes we have to remember that the vast majority of serotonin is held in the digestive area, as ADHD is a related to neurotransmitter imbalance & one neurotransmitter affects how another works is it not highly possible that the digestive system would be affected? I will see if i can gather any more information on the effects of hormones in their relation to ADHD, but it seems highly likely knowing how they work on the body's chemical balance they would have quite a profound affect on ADHD symptoms & in some cases could possibly be to some extent an attributable cause. I'm not a doctor but have a reasonable understanding of human biological & neurological function... as a basic rule everything affects everything else to simplify things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 19:02:14 GMT
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Post by phil on Jan 24, 2012 16:16:12 GMT
rabbit type, you are wasting you time and effort the problem lays in diffrent types of ADHD! somethings somefolks will totally relate to if they don't happen to suffer a certain symptom or system of belief then it is totally dismissed! my mother suffers from IBS or some divatickitus how ever you spell it as a child she had a heart murmer this was just after WW2 when they did not have the tech to check ;D
a doctor spouts some shit out and it will be believed by the gulible whom never question anything! a good example the N.H.S spout out that a good sleep routine for kids helps the ADHD i had a good sleep routeen i was in bed by 10pm this put me into an inattentive coma! and my education was effected meaning i left school with nothing! ADHD is like a seesaw sort one aspect out and another aspect will surley fuck up! nothing gets done in terms of reserch the patronising health service are just bunging pills be it fucking stimulents or happy pills to kosh the fucking problem! and if these pills are the be all and end all why are so many ADHD'ers on this site moaning about problems? you should be happy on you're happy pills just like gene of eastenders not moaning so go back to the specialist so he can kosh you some more to quit you're fucking complaining! because if you have not worked it out yet that is what is happening! i want someone to come on here and say i'm on this and i got no problems? i am cured? everything is sorted? we are the great ignored and this go's beyond igronance! you got groups up and down the country do somthing and make a stand let our voice be heared! make enough petitions as you like nothing is getting done into the research aspect of the condition. and until proper research is done we are all in the same boat just getting koshed on happy pills and stimulents. that can cause elation. mania. suicide but doctors will claim these drugs are totally safe and harmless! you got to think of things like this doctors in the mental health service kill with kindness for every person whom takes there live their doctors have failed them so they must suffer from some associated guilt! perhaps that's why they seem to lack empathy and treat you as a medical number and not a person? nothing gets done if you don't make it happen my house don't clean it's self! and you got to look at things like we can make things happen and you have to put all you're hope and belief into it otherwise we are fucked and will constantly be fucked over as will our kids! and our kids, kids! the government can find the money to bail the banks out when are they going to find the money to bail us out? ;D
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