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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 11:41:09 GMT
I started this as an answer to Endless, but why not ...? So I did. ------------ Who are you to judge me? I don't know anything about you. Age, nationality, gender, professional status, ofcourse outlook, voice, ... One of the things I don't like about fora. (But they are useful.) You could fill me in, and I you. Or maybe I should write an introduction. Or maybe I'm fed up with you lot soon and leave. I don't mean that, about being fed up. You see, I need personal relationships, which I don't have in real life. I need the "full monty". I want to know everything about somebody's feelings, views, memories, selfimage, ... and I find it that "real people" are often not interesting, probably because they communicate so "thinly'. I don't want the shop to just have greens or clothes; I want a supermarket, that I can explore. And want to show "the customer" everything I have "in store". Are you being served? I don't see myself as easy. To the contrary, it wouldn't surprise me that I'be the most complex being on earth. I would like to communicate with everybody about anything; in reality I just talk to 2 people about some stuff, like feelings. My mother (74) and some kind of social worker. They both receive not more than 5 out of 10. It's extremely hard to find 10's, for me anyway. Most people seem to be too selfconfident, even if they have so many faults and flaws. When you watch shows about bad restaurants, one of the advises often is to limit the dishes in order to be more efficient and to raise the quality. One of my problems: being very perg-feitonositic on the one side and not being able to handle all my dishes on the other hand. I face bankruptcy! I'm rather insecure regarding my writing style. It's hard too evaluate one self. I'm struggling a bit with the English, because I'm used to hearing it a lot, but reading it less. Although I often watch movies, documentaries, some talk shows like Question Hour and series like now Versailles on BBC 1 and 2. Recently I started to know more about the life of John Lennon. I should have been a career rock/pop musician; you're the one who can yell, or confess, or cry, or preach, or ... to the whole world, and still they find you strong and succesful. While being locked up in the shell of a "normal" being, I achieve nothing. Heal the world; make it a better place. How about the man in the mirror? Read more: aadduk.proboards.com/thread/10313/saving-thousands-lives-year-mission#ixzz4AhhqDgJw
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 11:47:54 GMT
One other thing I hate about fora. What I expect, is attention. But I'm not able to return that to all those present, and that makes me feel selfish and guilty and confused. Which I already feel in general. I need consolation and understanding.. But if you feel - with a little exaggeration - torn, if you doubt all the time, ... then you experience stress and you run. (Or fight.)
"Anyone is so untrue". Honesty, by Billy Joel, right now on the radio. I believe he has an ADHD-character. Used to box, was addicted to alcohol, like John Lennon ...
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 13:07:18 GMT
We all crave attention thinkaholic I think there are a few people on this forum who would compete with you for the title of most complex being on earth. The forum's been very quiet the past few days, probably due to the British climate. . the sun's suddenly appeared and it can send us a bit giddy. . . we feel compelled to go outside in it because it may be gone again tomorrow! I've read your posts, but they're very long and address a lot of things all at once, so it's difficult to know what to reply to. . We're all guilty of writing over-long posts, then getting annoyed that no-one responds. Me too! Perfectionism too. . .I've been thinking a lot about this recently. . . not only does it take me a long time to write things because I have to choose the right words, I also have to get the formatting right. . which can take almost as long as the writing. . . I am perfectionist in most areas of my life, which means that I usually fail my self-expectations. Welcome to the forum
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 13:20:21 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not so that "God" fucked up quite a few times in his existence?
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 13:29:06 GMT
I don't believe in 'God'
I know I'm being pedantic, but it should be 'me', not 'I' in your thread title. . .English. . so many rules. . and exceptions.
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 13:51:27 GMT
Are you sure? It is not more logical to use "I"? Is there nobody more complex than I (am)? Is there nobody stronger than you (are)? You know what? Let's google! Answer Grammarians have been struggling over "better than I" vs. "better than me" for hundreds of years, and they are not likely to settle the issue anytime soon. Fortunately, there are two simple rules you can follow that will keep you sounding natural and appropriate to native speakers. Formal written English: Better than I In written English, especially in a formal document such as a business letter or a school assignment, most native speakers believe that the subject pronouns I, he, she, we, and they are correct after than. Therefore, if you want to sound educated and correct, it is safer to use “better than I.” Conversational English: Better than me In everyday conversation, however, or in text messages and informal emails, most native speakers use the object pronouns me, him, her, us, and them (even if they tell you that they don’t), and if you say “better than I” many people will think that it sounds unnatural and awkward and possibly even pretentious. So in conversation, I recommend that you stick with “better than me.” I hope this is helpful. www.learnersdictionary.com/qa/better-than-I-or-better-than-me Sorry I"m pretentious! But not that I'm right. One of the things I can't stand, is adopting a (stupid) habit just because almost everybody thinks that's how it should be. Neither do I. I just made a joke, referring to the "Senior God" under your name. What is the meaning of that anyway?
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 14:15:15 GMT
Oh. . the Senior God thing. . it just means that I've posted a lot. I know what you mean with the 'I' 'me' thing . . The way you used I is formal, but not what we'd use in conversation.. . it just sounds wrong. A lot of native speakers still use 'I' incorrectly and it's a constant worry when writing. . if it's used in connection to another person. eg. "My sister and I think. . ." "It seems important to my sister and me. ." it would be incorrect to use 'I' here because you should be able to take the other person out of the phrase and it should still make sense. I was being deliberately provocative I like a bit of an argument. . it makes things more interesting!
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 14:20:43 GMT
Right. I'll take this opportunity to show you how smart I am! It's important to my sister + it's important to me = to my sister and (to) me But I stand my ground; it should always 'be bigger than I (am). In Dutch lots of (more simple) people struggle with the same problem. It should be Groter dan ik (ben), and Groter dan die van mij. Instead of Groter dan mij. And Het is belangrijk voor mijn zuster en (voor) mij. ----------- Definition of Juxtaposition "As a literary technique, the juxtaposition definition is to place two concepts, characters, ideas, or places near or next to each other so that the reader will compare and contrast them. This technique also may imply a link that is not necessarily real or to be trusted. ...The word juxtaposition comes from the Latin for “side by side” with “position,” originally a French word that became standardized into English. In grammar, the use of juxtaposition is the absence of conjunctions when grouping words in a list, such as omitting the “but” or “and.” ... Better late than never. While being late is a negative thing, the possibility of something never happening or someone never arriving is much worse. Therefore, this juxtaposition puts things into perspective. www.literarydevices.com/juxtaposition/
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 15:15:05 GMT
I tried to learn Dutch years ago.
I've never been very good at other languages. . better reading than speaking. .
I found the pronunciation really difficult.
You don't need to prove how smart you are, your English is much better than my Dutch, French, German or Swedish. .
all of which I can speak a little, but very badly.
Do you sometimes start an argument, just to get a response? I do.
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 15:17:01 GMT
It would sound better if you included the 'am'
Is anybody here as complex as I am?. . .is much better.
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 15:20:51 GMT
People have the tendancy to simplify things. But this results in not being able to understand why a sentence has to be written in a certain logical way.
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 15:30:11 GMT
People (who are) like you and I (are) - - need to be stimulated a lot. Finding something to start a discussion gives us that. If nobody wants "to play" with you, you probably shout harder to draw the attention, or you just shut and give up and go 'play with yourself." Like I've been doing a lot since my 11th or so. and also Oh. Dutch? Interesting. Why, where, ...? Now I see another link. He was bored if there was not a war to fight (or a woman to f...). add-informatie-en-tips.jimdo.com/homepage-english/part-ii-famous-add-adhd-ers/Napoleon Bonaparte - French military and political leader during the latter stages of the French Revolution Date of birth: 15-08-1769 Deceased: 05-05-1821 "He is rumored to have had many amours. " napoleone.tripod.com/women.htm
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Post by complex being on Jun 5, 2016 15:58:51 GMT
What you call logical is just an adherence to obsolete grammar rules that hardly anyone follows anymore. If you wish to be understood, the only thing that matters when it comes to grammar is how other people use it, not clinging onto rules that no one else does.
What truly is logical is speaking in a way that will be understood as correct by the most people. Any other way of deciding what kind of English to speak falls into a trap: if you accept the premise that older is more logical, then even older is surely even more logical. Why stop at the English people spoke 100 years ago, when you could be speaking in Middle English, Old English or possibly Proto-Indo-European? Of course no one will understand you, but you'll be oh so correct and isn't that what matters most?
Just choosing an arbitrary point in the past and deciding that was when that English reached perfection just seems like a method to make yourself feel superior.
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Post by vagueandrandom on Jun 5, 2016 19:14:22 GMT
Dutch? because my boyfriend at the time was thinking of moving to Ghent or Antwerp and we used to visit a fair bit.
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 5, 2016 23:06:55 GMT
Well, well, well. We could have been fellow countrymen. Is that the right way of saying that?)
Was the end of the relationship the end of the migration plan? Why Gent or Antwerpen?
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Post by shiningbright on Jun 6, 2016 0:16:34 GMT
People (who are) like you and I (are) - - need to be stimulated a lot. Finding something to start a discussion gives us that. If nobody wants "to play" with you, you probably shout harder to draw the attention, or you just shut and give up and go 'play with yourself." Well phased I think - as a kid I created a world inside my head so that I could met the social and emotional needs absent in my life. To the rest of the world, except to my OH and kids, jujuim just a crazy person who makes little sense but is good to have around for a laugh and or educational lesson. As my cowife youngest girl said to me today 'you're so funny and full of knowledge!' But that's mostly the limit of my value to most people. To my OH I have much value and he has been able to help me turn some, not all, of my idiosyncrasies into some kind of practical application. Normally in the form for helping with his work. Too everyone else I'm still a submissive nut job. I don't care about them though. I'm aquite philosophical and often say that maybe I'm just the only sane person they know lol - perspective :-)
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Post by thinkaholic on Jun 7, 2016 15:50:31 GMT
There are some words in there I don't understand. Or are they just not spelled correctly? Remember I'm a not-immigrant. Should I have them translated, or can you imagine yourself which ones?
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