Just need a safe space to say this
Jun 27, 2016 19:39:13 GMT
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Post by blaze on Jun 27, 2016 19:39:13 GMT
As it wont stop repeating in my brain at mo..... & i cant remember such things as logins so cant use other forums & cant say it face to face because i cry so much i cant get the words out
And i am just asking for safwty to say this, not looking for disscuasion or advice or anything, i just need to say it, get it out in the hope that will be it done, or atleast that the strength of emotion behind will calm to managable levels
(I have a huge load on my plate at mo so maybe misplaced feelings, but, well i allsays have this much pressure & have never felt this way about politics.....)
So everytime i hear people complaining about i voted leave but i am not a racist & oh poor poor me because all you nasty remainers lumping me in with them (paralhrased ofcourse) ALL that keeps playingmy mind is that there were nazis who weren't racist, who supported hitler because they agreed with the economic policies & feared for the stability of the economy and the future of their kids the way things were going then, and look what happened.
There wasn't ever merely two choices, if so many leavers weren't racists why didn't they stop the xenephobic campaign??? Why didnt they start petitions about leave is right but the racism isnt??? Why didnt they spoil their ballot papers and write explaination letters to mps & newpapers about hkw they believe in leave but wont stand for this racism. Hold protests or whatever other political ways to voice opinion without throwing in with nf & his nazi posters (shd be a hate crime in itself) & effectively let racism win!?!?!?
I keep thinking about how nazi germany was taught in history at school- how hitler & a few v evil sickos gained power & did what they did because no one sooke up/stopped them. How it was all many nazis followed hitler because they were duped into believing jew et al were the root of the problem, then how many werent racist or evil but allowed racism by voting for what they believed was best for the economy etc,
& i cant keep thinking if this us how we will be described in time, that most leavers werent racist but they threw their lot in with those whp were because it was best for the economy, & they go saying i am not racist & all i think on repeat is that tgere were nazis who would have said the same.
& i dont say it ifcourse bevause it feels a horridly unfair thing to say. But then i wounder if that means i &other *pc* remainers will go down in history as lumped in with the leavers because well not speaking out against those who allowed the racist lots to win are effectively just as responsible for *letting* racism be the norm
Fk this isnt terribley cohearant but i hope someone understands. It all just seems so wrong, they may not ve racist but they supported racists, & i may not be racist but i am not challemging every *i am not racist but leaver* & i just cant help thinking that nazi germany was allways disscussed as coming about the same way, that non rasist nazis (never thought i would type that) enabled hitlers genocide by supporting him even though they may not have agreed with ths racist part & non nazis allowed his genocide by not speaking up enough. And, while i would never make a flipant commonet about how some nazis werent racist at the point when leavers say they didnt vote on immigration reasons, i have part of me woundering constantly if thats my place in history, that i will have allows whatever cultural shifts there (are alreasy starting) by not challanging that as clearly as i feel, by moderating my horror that anyone would not be rasist but chppse the racist side, by being pc & considerate of respecting their right to political freedom (but BUT what about voter responsibility to others, those now becoming victims, those protected under the equalities act, who it turns out arnt really protected at all.....)
Sorry, done, rant over. Just needed to get it out safely before i spurt it at someone in reality. & i get some may take this as catosraphising & i am not thinking this is the start if the end or anything, just that feels like such a whopping great backward slap for human rights & even if the rasist attacks coming are **only** **minor** in comparison to the hollocaust (& i woud never choose to compare such things, but if anyone is going to the oh dont bring up nazis yadda yadda) it is just that it feels like such a huge backward shockingly uncaring step to take where non racists vote for a rasist campaign & when the leavers go i am not rasist the said several nazi line pops up in my head & wont go away.
So thank you for letting me rant. I am actualy much calmer than i may appear in this post, just needed to get this thiught out safely so it doesnt negatively effect the hugely important stuff i have going on at mo
And i am just asking for safwty to say this, not looking for disscuasion or advice or anything, i just need to say it, get it out in the hope that will be it done, or atleast that the strength of emotion behind will calm to managable levels
(I have a huge load on my plate at mo so maybe misplaced feelings, but, well i allsays have this much pressure & have never felt this way about politics.....)
So everytime i hear people complaining about i voted leave but i am not a racist & oh poor poor me because all you nasty remainers lumping me in with them (paralhrased ofcourse) ALL that keeps playingmy mind is that there were nazis who weren't racist, who supported hitler because they agreed with the economic policies & feared for the stability of the economy and the future of their kids the way things were going then, and look what happened.
There wasn't ever merely two choices, if so many leavers weren't racists why didn't they stop the xenephobic campaign??? Why didnt they start petitions about leave is right but the racism isnt??? Why didnt they spoil their ballot papers and write explaination letters to mps & newpapers about hkw they believe in leave but wont stand for this racism. Hold protests or whatever other political ways to voice opinion without throwing in with nf & his nazi posters (shd be a hate crime in itself) & effectively let racism win!?!?!?
I keep thinking about how nazi germany was taught in history at school- how hitler & a few v evil sickos gained power & did what they did because no one sooke up/stopped them. How it was all many nazis followed hitler because they were duped into believing jew et al were the root of the problem, then how many werent racist or evil but allowed racism by voting for what they believed was best for the economy etc,
& i cant keep thinking if this us how we will be described in time, that most leavers werent racist but they threw their lot in with those whp were because it was best for the economy, & they go saying i am not racist & all i think on repeat is that tgere were nazis who would have said the same.
& i dont say it ifcourse bevause it feels a horridly unfair thing to say. But then i wounder if that means i &other *pc* remainers will go down in history as lumped in with the leavers because well not speaking out against those who allowed the racist lots to win are effectively just as responsible for *letting* racism be the norm
Fk this isnt terribley cohearant but i hope someone understands. It all just seems so wrong, they may not ve racist but they supported racists, & i may not be racist but i am not challemging every *i am not racist but leaver* & i just cant help thinking that nazi germany was allways disscussed as coming about the same way, that non rasist nazis (never thought i would type that) enabled hitlers genocide by supporting him even though they may not have agreed with ths racist part & non nazis allowed his genocide by not speaking up enough. And, while i would never make a flipant commonet about how some nazis werent racist at the point when leavers say they didnt vote on immigration reasons, i have part of me woundering constantly if thats my place in history, that i will have allows whatever cultural shifts there (are alreasy starting) by not challanging that as clearly as i feel, by moderating my horror that anyone would not be rasist but chppse the racist side, by being pc & considerate of respecting their right to political freedom (but BUT what about voter responsibility to others, those now becoming victims, those protected under the equalities act, who it turns out arnt really protected at all.....)
Sorry, done, rant over. Just needed to get it out safely before i spurt it at someone in reality. & i get some may take this as catosraphising & i am not thinking this is the start if the end or anything, just that feels like such a whopping great backward slap for human rights & even if the rasist attacks coming are **only** **minor** in comparison to the hollocaust (& i woud never choose to compare such things, but if anyone is going to the oh dont bring up nazis yadda yadda) it is just that it feels like such a huge backward shockingly uncaring step to take where non racists vote for a rasist campaign & when the leavers go i am not rasist the said several nazi line pops up in my head & wont go away.
So thank you for letting me rant. I am actualy much calmer than i may appear in this post, just needed to get this thiught out safely so it doesnt negatively effect the hugely important stuff i have going on at mo