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Post by andy12345 on Aug 26, 2009 22:25:08 GMT
I remember that some hyperactive children calmed down when they followed a better diet, according to some report from the mists of time. Just because they were hyperactive does not mean they had adhd, of course. However, they had some symptoms. Anyway, I am trawling about for brain glucose stability articles, whilst my mental energy allows me. Keep those blood sugar levels stable for your brain. www.mentalhealthproject.com/download.asp?id_Doc=33QUOTE from article A study of 265 hyperactive children found that more than three quarters displayed abnormal glucose tolerance (4). As the main fuel for the brain and body, when blood glucose levels fluctuate wildly all day on a roller-coaster ride of refined carbohydrates, stimulants, sweets, chocolate, fizzy drinks, juices and little or no fibre to slow the glucose absorption, it is not surprising that levels of activity, concentration, focus and behaviour will also fluctuate wildly, as is seen in children with ADHD. The calming effect sometimes observed after sugar consumption may well be the initial normalisation of blood sugar from a hypoglycaemic state during which the brain and cognitive functions controlling behaviour were starved of fuel.
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Post by Lame44 on Aug 30, 2009 14:46:35 GMT
Wow, thanks for posting this. I currently have been unwell and one of the things thats happens when it gets bad and I collapse is that my blood sugars go to low. I have been taken to hospital by ambulance a fair few times the past few months and they said my blood sugars were too low when they tested them. I'm not diabetic, but the hunt continues to find out the cause because what ever it is, it's making me very ill, to the point of vomiting now!
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 30, 2009 18:52:30 GMT
Thanks for the thanks I presume that you have had a large suite of blood tests by now? If the might of the nhs can't help, then you are going to have a very hard time finding a solution, but there will be one, there almost always is!!!!! If you can concentrate at the moment, then you need to work out how to replicate this issue so that you can learn how to avoid it.
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Post by Lame44 on Aug 30, 2009 21:16:43 GMT
Yea bloods done, urine samples taken over days, even had an MRI couple of weeks ago but nothing as yet has shown up. Mind the urine was to check for seratonin n the like, and of course taking an anti depressant is going to make the test invalid, shame my GP has either ignored the fact or is thick.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 30, 2009 22:07:40 GMT
I can only say that I hope that you or the doc finds the cause.
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Post by twix on Sept 1, 2009 11:31:59 GMT
That article looks like a bad science case of taking lots of studies and and using them to prove what you wanted to say without any real context and with the over use of emotive language. I tend to switch off as soon as they get into the hysterical kids are being given addictive drugs rant. As for the unscientific conclusions such as boys need more EFA and more boys have ADHD, well that doesn't prove anything. If indeed more boys do have ADHD and thats not something I am sure about anyway. Anyone could take a load of data and find some random correlations and write something.
I do think that eating well and keeping blood sugar levels stable helps my moods and my control over my ADHD but that doesn't mean that eating badly is a cause of ADHD.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 14:04:56 GMT
i agree with twix!... i try to eat well, with a 'low GI' type of diet, but it's not to keep my blood sugar from getting too high, it's to stop it from getting too low!... when i'm very hungry, i get much more anxious and easily distracted. -people whose pancreas functions normally shouldn't ever have to worry about high blood sugar levels, because once the amount of glucose in the blood passes a certain level, the body just stores it as glycogen & fat www.bbc.co.uk/sn/humanbody/truthaboutfood/kids/hyperactivity.shtmlwww.cnn.com/HEALTH/children/9911/22/diet.sugar.myth.kids.wmd/as a young boy my brother used to become very hyperactive after eating certain food colourings though, so i'm sure that some people do have a sensitivity to certain foods. but what he had would NOT have been properly diagnosed as ADHD. because the hyperactive states he used to get into lasted for a short while and came almost directly after eating the food.
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 1, 2009 22:48:46 GMT
Oops, I suppose I should clarify that the only points I was pushing are now numbered as follows.......
QUOTE I remember that some hyperactive children calmed down when they followed a better diet, according to some report from the mists of time.
1) Just because they were hyperactive does not mean they had adhd, of course. However, they had some symptoms. END
2) My quote from the article in my first post, which does not say that sugar level issues etc are a cause of "the real deal" adhd.
It makes valid points. For instance, out of 1000 ritalin users, how many are helped, how many neutral, how many hindered?
Same for the other stims and then atomoxetine.
Does anyone actually have any access to data to clarify, say, one year down the line, how many people out of 1,000 treated, have made a gain or a loss etc?
I don't have the data, do you?
I always try to look at both sides. We all know that adhd can be tracked with fMRI, SPECT, etc, so it can be proven to be a neurodiversity or literally a different process..... We know it's real when it is the real deal and not a mix of other illnesses.
QUOTE I tend to switch off as soon as they get into the hysterical kids are being given addictive drugs rant. END
I don't think it was as bad as you say, but, that's only my thought and I know how my crazy brain works ----when it does.
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 5, 2009 12:23:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 16:10:33 GMT
I went gluten free for while as love bread but think ate to much did feel quiet good i read link by dread neck saying eating gluten gives bad mood and i would agree, my diet is terrible hate healthy stuff but i try, my kids eat far better as i have made sure they eat fruit and veg.
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 5, 2009 21:40:39 GMT
OOOoh yeah, my bread consumption would get 10 stars..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 21:53:07 GMT
Andy what do you mean ten stars
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Post by andy12345 on Sept 5, 2009 22:13:00 GMT
I used to eat about 14 medium slices per day, maybe I still do......... It's like a rank of bread eating.....
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Post by haydreamer on Sept 5, 2009 23:11:05 GMT
not eaten bread for 5 weeks, feel much better, not bloated and legargic as much:)
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