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Post by mavster on Jun 20, 2010 8:19:11 GMT
Got into a bit of verbal with one of the opposition yesterday and when he questioned my parentage I told him to shut up and go and eat a popadom . Managed to get myself arrested the allegation is that i made a racial comment causing harassment alarm or distress been bailed to attent the station next friday.
I hate wankers that play the race card. Now if I had said f off you ugly paki bastard , I would agree that it was a racial comment likely to cause distress , But this..................
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2010 17:42:05 GMT
soz to here that mavster hope you get let off
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Post by sirrah on Jun 20, 2010 18:28:16 GMT
If you choose to insult someone, by making a cultural reference - that's racial prejudice. Nonsensical to arrest you, I'll give you that. Doesn't make you any less ignorant for resorting to such behavior.
Just my opinion, based on my personal values, not "political correctness" - for which I'm not a fan of either.
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Post by mavster on Jun 20, 2010 18:57:04 GMT
If you choose to insult someone, by making a cultural reference - that's racial prejudice. Nonsensical to arrest you, I'll give you that. Doesn't make you any less ignorant for resorting to such behavior. Just my opinion, based on my personal values, not "political correctness" - for which I'm not a fan of either. How is it a cultural reference , Eaten all over the world and curry was a british invention
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Post by sirrah on Jun 20, 2010 19:32:41 GMT
I hope for your sake that it's just me you're trying to kid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2010 20:33:35 GMT
I have got myself arrested for not being able to control my impulses either mate. All I can say is dont expect any sort of leniency. Im not trying to pull your chain mate but I fucked off for a reason. My government let me down time and time again and they pay more money out on harboring illegal immigrants and paying the other ones settling in fees than the whole lot of us get in funding for ADHD on the NHS. You should be able to go in front of a court and say I have a fucking impulse problem you morons. Give me some decent medical assistance and I wouldnt be here in front of you. Amen. Im sure you can see this is a real sore point for me. *climbs off box* I sent this to my MSP haha adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/if-he-outgrew-it-what-is-he-doing-in-my-prison/Good luck though mate.
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Post by mavster on Jun 20, 2010 21:32:42 GMT
I have got myself arrested for not being able to control my impulses either mate. All I can say is dont expect any sort of leniency. Im not trying to pull your chain mate but I fucked off for a reason. My government let me down time and time again and they pay more money out on harboring illegal immigrants and paying the other ones settling in fees than the whole lot of us get in funding for ADHD on the NHS. You should be able to go in front of a court and say I have a fucking impulse problem you morons. Give me some decent medical assistance and I wouldnt be here in front of you. Amen. Im sure you can see this is a real sore point for me. *climbs off box* I sent this to my MSP haha adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/if-he-outgrew-it-what-is-he-doing-in-my-prison/Good luck though mate. If you don't understand impulsive speech and speaking before thinking then you don't have adhd
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Post by mavster on Jun 20, 2010 21:37:01 GMT
I have got myself arrested for not being able to control my impulses either mate. All I can say is dont expect any sort of leniency. Im not trying to pull your chain mate but I fucked off for a reason. My government let me down time and time again and they pay more money out on harboring illegal immigrants and paying the other ones settling in fees than the whole lot of us get in funding for ADHD on the NHS. You should be able to go in front of a court and say I have a fucking impulse problem you morons. Give me some decent medical assistance and I wouldnt be here in front of you. Amen. Im sure you can see this is a real sore point for me. Interesting reading , thanks . Thank f that I only have two years left in this shithole of a country before I move to the czech republic . I know that I shouldn't have said anything , but hindsight is a wonderful thing . Guess I am under a lot of stress at the moment with going throug marriage difficulties and two days ago I got a call to say that my adopted sister has reported my dad for child abuse sao my mind wasn't exactly in a good place to start with I thought that I served six years in the army to have the freedom of speech . Those scum can abuse troops at homecoming parades calling them rapists and child murdererd yet the police protect them
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Post by phil on Jun 21, 2010 10:10:40 GMT
the cps may drop it yet maverick ;D you should have just bitch slapped him ;D
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Post by phil on Jun 21, 2010 10:21:44 GMT
as you was emotionally hurt at the time most people would have said somthing i would have probally put the head on him lol as for impulsive speech i get it in quing up i think its anxiety related
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2010 19:26:31 GMT
Haha nah I do it allsorts of situations. Most times I just laugh at myself but sometimes it can be serious unfortunately. I guess thats the beauty of living in Spain actually. I always have t think about what I am saying before I do.
Ive found the solution to our impulse problem people. Give me a big shiney star. Right, everybody needs to move to a foreign country where people dont understand us anyway, and even if we do learn the lingo we still actually need to compose our sentences. Saying that, im quite free with my swearing here. Right, new plan, try not to learn sweary words hahaha.
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Post by Lame44 on Jun 21, 2010 19:30:19 GMT
As I said elsewhere the old bill are as bent as half those they arrest, n dont give a shit for those of us who have impulse problems. I was nearly arrested recently and I admit I was wrong, but I got hit, n who did the oild bill shout at n treat like a fucking kid coz I look young? Me of course n let the bitch that hit me walk off down the road still threatening me n shoutin' shit.
People like us are never favoured by people like the police, you mention adhd n they get all high n mighty n tell you, you need to go home to where you lived before, get some help, shut the fuck up, I'll arrest you if you say one more thing..(like you aint allowed to talk) and they know full well you aint going to shut the fuck up. Mind if you do coz you've calmed down, they will then decide while you're bending down to get some socks off the floor in your own home to fucking push you really hard n when you say summat back, bang, they are in you quicker than they would be if you were a terrorist.
Some pigs know exactly how to get you arrested just by saying n doing shit that they know to be wrong, but they know you'll know it;s wrong too, so you have ago n they gotcha!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2010 3:01:32 GMT
Got into a bit of verbal with one of the opposition yesterday and when he questioned my parentage I told him to shut up and go and eat a popadom .Managed to get myself arrested the allegation is that i made a racial comment causing harassment alarm or distress been bailed to attent the station next friday. I hate wankers that play the race card. Now if I had said f off you ugly paki bastard , I would agree that it was a racial comment likely to cause distress , But this.................. Ignore what I posted previously, I completely misread what you posted lol. I thought you said to an asian policeman to away and eat a popadom and that's why you were arrested, d'oh! Don't take this the wrong way Mavster, but it was silly throw away comment belonging in a playground, but it certainly doesn't merit being arrested for. It's not a comment you would have said to a white man, but you might have called someone else - fat, ginger, speccy etc. You wouldn't have been arrested for being fatist or gingerist .....Your arrest actually makes a mockery of the genuine cases of racial abuse.
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Post by roland on Jun 24, 2010 18:12:44 GMT
Just in the interest of getting a balanced view, what did he say when he questioned your parentage mavster? Was he rude to you first?
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Post by mavster on Jun 24, 2010 21:43:26 GMT
Just in the interest of getting a balanced view, what did he say when he questioned your parentage mavster? Was he rude to you first? I was getting about 15 mins of it with comments like is your wife , I mean sister waiting for you , and with my dad being reported to the police by my adoptive sister of sexual abuse when she was a teenager , I just snapped . I didn't even say it to him , I said it to the umpire "will someone give him a papadum or something to shut him up . Another fielder told him what I said and he rushed over and pulled a stump out of the ground threatening to hit me around the head with it. I have to go to the station for questioning over it tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2010 23:40:32 GMT
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I was getting about 15 mins of it with comments like is your wife , I mean sister waiting for you , and with my dad being reported to the police by my adoptive sister of sexual abuse when she was a teenager , I just snapped . I didn't even say it to him , I said it to the umpire "will someone give him a papadum or something to shut him up . Another fielder told him what I said and he rushed over and pulled a stump out of the ground threatening to hit me around the head with it. I have to go to the station for questioning over it tomorrow[/quote]
Make sure you tell them all of that. Seems like you are more the victim here to be honest. Just try and hold your tongue, if you start to get worked up.
PS In hindsight, you should have rammed the stump up his arse! Give him something to actually get you arrested for.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 9:45:49 GMT
Mavster.
This story is given a whole different light once you said what he said to you.
Like lyndsay said, make sure you tell them everything. Write it down also, i know id forget.
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Post by mavster on Jun 25, 2010 14:38:11 GMT
Went down the station and the officer seemed to actually atke an interest in my adhd , and loads of people have been to the station to put their sides of the story backing me , It has been kind of nice in a way because at times like these you actually realise how many friends you have . The officer told me there are three options where they can drop the charges , give me a caution or take me to court. I am waiting for him to speak to his sargent and call me to tell me which one they are going with
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 14:45:30 GMT
They will drop them im guessing.
Fingers crossed
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Post by mavster on Jun 25, 2010 15:00:21 GMT
wouldn't mind , but I have to saty in on a really nice day waiting for the call. The policeman said that i would more than likely get a caution
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2010 2:21:19 GMT
A caution for what exactly? Saying that someone should eat a popadom? Feckin' ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2010 21:28:31 GMT
To be honest, if you get a caution you need to seek legal advice and have it dropped. It could be argued that you were not under control at the moment of that comment but the fact he heard it second hand and came after you was an intent to harm you.
You implusively said something, meaning half of what you said wasn't truly thought through... he had to run across the area, locate and acquire a weapon and threaten you. So basically if you are charged or given anything then he should equally do so, but with the help of a solicitor. Impulse is immediate reaction, you showed it and he did not.
Also most importantly, do NOT apologise to the guy. That would be an admission that it was your fault, symptoms are not your fault so nor are your actions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 12:16:11 GMT
Bravo to that man. Well said Pardon.
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Post by dipsy on Jun 27, 2010 15:03:31 GMT
Don't accept a caution! its an admision of guilt and looks good on hte police crime figures, which is why the police like them, its easy for them. It will mean you have a criminal record! which will show up on CRB checks, and racisism aint one of the best things to have to explain to potential bosses or whatever.
Looks like theres nothing for the police to pursue here, so dont accept it and you should be ok.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 7:43:46 GMT
As I said elsewhere the old bill are as bent as half those they arrest, n dont give a shit for those of us who have impulse problems. I was nearly arrested recently and I admit I was wrong, but I got hit, n who did the oild bill shout at n treat like a fucking kid coz I look young? Me of course n let the bitch that hit me walk off down the road still threatening me n shoutin' shit. People like us are never favoured by people like the police, you mention adhd n they get all high n mighty n tell you, you need to go home to where you lived before, get some help, shut the fuck up, I'll arrest you if you say one more thing..(like you aint allowed to talk) and they know full well you aint going to shut the fuck up. Mind if you do coz you've calmed down, they will then decide while you're bending down to get some socks off the floor in your own home to fucking push you really hard n when you say summat back, bang, they are in you quicker than they would be if you were a terrorist. Some pigs know exactly how to get you arrested just by saying n doing shit that they know to be wrong, but they know you'll know it;s wrong too, so you have ago n they gotcha! There's a bit of a paradox here. I would say that the 'lower' classes, so to speak, are favoured less by police and society as a whole. I have friends who are constantly getting arrested and stopped etc... one of whom is ASD poss ADD/ADHD, and has a phobia of the police, and definite ODD trends (more able to spot the gaping wholes in the illogical nature of the society around us, and not one to tolerate such moral depravity). I hower get bounced, no DNA test, no fingerprints, told what to say. The difference being, I'm smart enough to be able to get off and not get arrested, I know how the law 'works', by getting you to allow them to do things. I make this apparently obvious, by making them do things and so being in control. An police force without control is no police force at all. Do you understand your rights? Would you like to refer to PACE? etc... maximum detention times. Just how does one identify themselves as a police officer, impersonation is a serious offence and anyone can get a costume, paint a car, get friends along dressed up like that too. Even infiltrate the police force.
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Post by sherry on Aug 29, 2010 20:59:27 GMT
Well Mavster did you have the caution or make a counter allegation of common assault and get it all dropped?
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