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Post by andy12345 on Jul 4, 2011 19:03:35 GMT
In my updated first post, you'll find a link to something that looks almost exactly like what I have. The aura is not what I see.
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2011 20:01:10 GMT
Come again? An aura is what you are experiencing! As you are not either having a chronic headache afterwards and sensitive to light then it is not repeat not a migraine! As you don't have a Seizure after the Aura it is not repeat not Epilepsy! It may be a brain tumour! It may be pressure on the optic nerve! It may be damage to the optic nerve! Until you get it checked out ask you're doctor to refer you to a neurologist for an EEG you will never know? There's no point in making assumptions without the benefit of the facts as it could be something fatal! Or others could read this and think that they are just having "visual migraines" with no symptoms of actual migraine and put themselves in jeopardy!
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2011 20:12:59 GMT
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Post by andy12345 on Jul 4, 2011 20:33:59 GMT
You are persistent and well done (or medium rare? ) . It's best not to leave things too easily. I've done that too much in the past and I've been rather screwed up because of it. So, firstly, I had to get some more info just to clarify. www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/ocular-migraine.htm migraine that is otherwise symptomless bar the aforementioned symptoms. No pain migraine. The patterning effect could be called an aura, as part of a pain free, ocular migraine. However, as this can't be considered progressive, but random and is so few and far between I don't think I'm going to pursue it at this time. If It was increasing in frequency, duration or severity then I would probably wander to the opticians and get some evaluation. I'm sure perusers' of this thread will read the links and see for themselves and they have opticians they can ask. P.s my last pain migraine was when I was 9 and that was a real pain in the head. I wonder what triggered that? ?
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2011 20:58:58 GMT
i never had migrains some bad headaches after seizures but the worst headache i ever had in my life was the day i was lock in a room for hours getting interrorgated by a shrink dennied epilepsy meds, food, water, my head was beating like a heart. but i will learn a lesson from this and it will never happen to me again ;D
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2011 21:03:36 GMT
a mate of mine dean complained of migraine from his late teens constantly got fobbed off nothing was working to cure his head aches. 20 odd years later he had an mri turns out he has a tumour the size of a tennis ball so you never know :/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 21:31:32 GMT
God you two; its worse than reading the daily mail 'health pages' i feel paranoid now!!
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Post by andy12345 on Jul 4, 2011 21:33:49 GMT
Simone, how very dare you use the words "daily mail" and "health" in the same lifetime. Well done for apostrophising health pages........ tea and kittens is far better anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 21:37:42 GMT
Tea and kittens anyday!! I knew the Mail would be your favourite!
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Post by andy12345 on Jul 4, 2011 21:38:41 GMT
I'll be glad when these newspapers are locked behind paywalls. More time for procrastination then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 21:45:20 GMT
I am genuinely addicted to buying a paper I hate reading, but feel compelled to do so, just so i can feel annoyed and vented at the articles,
make sense of that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 21:46:16 GMT
...and you two could definitely do a better job of the health pages!! My anxiety would hit the roof!!
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Post by boo on Jul 4, 2011 23:04:58 GMT
hey andy, those links are interesting, what i have had previously is a kind of mix of both of those, the first one is more like how it 'moves' and 'spreads' and shimmers/flickers across my field of vision, the second one pulsates too much to be like what i have experienced but the first one is all multi-coloured and what i have had before hasn't been. wierdness....
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Post by phil on Jul 5, 2011 0:43:39 GMT
andy you are doing the same again posting links to american sites! thats what causes confusion, in the uk these types of migraines do not exist! like cyclothimia is not bipolar disorder in this country and there is only 3 types of ADHD! www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Migraine/Pages/Introduction.aspxit gets to the point where i'm repeating myself again, again, and again everyone experancing these "Aura's" should get them checked out with a G.P if he is unsure ask to be refered to a neurologist
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Post by phil on Jul 5, 2011 5:52:26 GMT
hey andy have you tryed similasan eye drops? ;D LMFAO
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Post by andy12345 on Jul 5, 2011 10:21:54 GMT
Phil, This country isn't the ultimate authority on everything. The NHS has steeped everything in conservatism, due to a very low budget. The USA has far more development potential because the population is far greater and, like private medicine, if you have the money, you get treated earlier. This is not always the case, of course. Testosterone deficiency for instance in the private sector, anywhere in the world, is a bit easier to get a diagnosis for. When it comes to money changing hands directly, companies always find a way to make it a little easier...... Remember...... Only hyperkinetic adhd was recognised in this country until 2008 NICE guidelines (if you're psychiatrist understands the authority of the royal college of psychiatrists and ADHD. Meanwhile, in the USA, 3 or 4? types were recognised from about 1980 and ritalin was used even earlier than that for "disorders of the nerves" and the other names adhd was given previously. I think everyone reading this thread clearly understands that opticians' are easily consulted and no one is going to take for gospel anything from teh interwebs. No, phil, but I do take himalyan eye drops. Also, you're memory seems to be lacking a bit, because we discussed cyclothymia before........ www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/problems/bipolardisorder/bipolardisorder.aspxIf the "conservative" (read money before people......) nhs hasn't updated their people with cyclothymia, it's not my problem.
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Post by phil on Jul 5, 2011 13:11:36 GMT
you're reading things wrong and that is confusing you right on american sites they will claim that cyclothimia is bipolar 3 to shift drugs! Cyclothymia ¡The mood swings are not as severe as those in full bipolar disorder, but can be longer. This can develop into full bipolar disorder. the this can develop in to full blown bipolar disorders the give away ;D meaning it is nither bipolar one nor two where does this say it it a type of bipolar disorder? right there is two types of bipolar disorder 1 or 2 are you sill with me? forget about mixed mood or rapid cycling before you go off on some proof overload! now cyclothimia diagnosis is given when you're mood does not hit the criteria for either bipolar one or two or if you have taken class A drugs within two years of the diagnosis! cyclothimia means that you mood goes in cycles it is not a type of repeat not a type of bipolar disorder or bipolar 3 in this country! it is a label they put on you to see if these mood swings develope into bipolar 1 or 2 in a few years down the line with the kindling effect cyclothimia mimics the on set of bipolar disorder rapid cycling is not repeat not a type of bipolar. rapid cycling is just another word to discribe that you either suffer from bipolar 1 or 2 but you have more than one episode in a year! are you getting this now or are you still confused? the NHS nice BMA ect ect ect are getting it right that is confusing you as it's under types of bipolar disorder when there is two types mixed moods or rapid cycling may be present if you still ain't getting this let me know and i'll try finding somthing less confusing for you
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Post by phil on Jul 5, 2011 15:20:31 GMT
www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/depression/204171.htmlright Andy make an appointment with you're uk G.P tell him you are having Ocular Migraines tell him you've been suffering a bit of pooh and eyeore ADHD and ask him for a list of symptoms for cyclothimia ;D now are you beguining to realise why going in the local G.P's office with this sort of crap gets you not taken seriously! the usa flog alsorts of crap for conditions that don't even exist! are you beguining to understand any of this? when i first joined up i thought you was some kind of moderator with this senior god stuff so imagine a noob joins thinks you're a doctor and has somthing seriously wrong going on see's this post and thinks phew its just some Ocular Migraine going on so does not seek medical help!
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Post by kakema on Jul 5, 2011 22:36:05 GMT
Wtf? I go away for an hour or two to enjoy a (damn fine) meetup and you lot are arguing again??
Phil, if anyone coming on this forum thinks any of us is an expert, they need to get out more. Seriously.
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Post by phil on Jul 6, 2011 7:18:00 GMT
shiny i swear i thought andy was a mod and had some authority when i first joined up that is due to this status thing lol there is no way on earth that a treatment for pinkeye a condition you can get from scratching your bum and rubbing your eye would ever work on an Aura! what i am trying to put across it ain't arguing and if you believe it is you ain't seen me argue ;D is that these sites in the usa hold no weight in this country and there is other conditions auras can be connected to. thats why it's important to see a G.P about them not just write it off under one thing when it could be another. doctor andy has put it down to an optical migraine with no headache or sensitivity to light or sound so thats what it must be then! wrong i mentioned that it could be other things then he comes with a bombardment with a load of crap from the usa that means nothing in this country as the usa do not govern the N.H.S in the uk! in the usa health treatment is paid for Andy and in the US more mistakes are made in misdiagnosis. in the uk we have a better system involved but can't fund it! i posted a link to help him out that in the uk this is an aura and he is still kicking off with neurosis or psychosis how great the americans are blah blah fucking blah ;D drugs that are used in treatment in the us are banned in this country thats how strict our system is!
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Post by boo on Jul 7, 2011 0:07:21 GMT
well i aint a doctor and i seem to have pain free migraines too!
please try and remember this is a
[glow=red,2,300]message board[/glow] NOT A
[glow=red,2,300]medical advice forum![/glow]
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Post by phil on Jul 7, 2011 7:34:50 GMT
A migraine is a Headache! A head ache is A Pain in the head! Migrain suffers are sensitive to light or sound! Without pain being present then it can't be migraine!
What's is being discribed is no migraine apart from the people who have had a migraine I.e the headache afterwards! The seeing things could be an Aura! And aura is a warning system of an impending attack this could be a migraine attack or a Seizure! But it may not Even be a AURA! There is other explanations that it could be pysical or mental for seeing things! The word migraine decribes a headache of a certain type! No head ache no migraine is that easy to understand or should we all move to america so we can all act nut's? ;D
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Post by boo on Jul 7, 2011 17:59:38 GMT
or should we all move to america so we can all act nut's? ;D like we'd have to move to america to do that ;D
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Post by phil on Jul 7, 2011 18:20:25 GMT
FFS you try and put a point across then you get the fucking clique involved not looking at any links total fucking igronance taking things the wrong way "he's having a go at Andy, Andy's my friend" LMFAO andy will be looking at this he hides away after being confronted with the truth i have observed! so words like trolls are banded about! trouble makers! ect ect ect; so who are the real trolls ;D you could answer this or put you're head in the sand like Andy until it all blows over
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Post by boo on Jul 8, 2011 18:47:50 GMT
ummmmm. is that aimed at me then? seeing as how i am the only person to have posted since you last did and then following my last post you go off on one about some clique or other..... do you think i am in one phil? cos i aint mate......... no-one'll have me ;D chill phil! PEE EL ZED
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Post by phil on Jul 8, 2011 20:21:11 GMT
Boo either that or you not reading things I will get a ferking migraine if I got to explain what a ferking migraine is to andy or that ferking cyclothymia is not ferking bipolar disorder! This ain't the only post I've tried to explaine to him on But if he wants to delude himself there is ferk all I can do about it ;D
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Post by boo on Jul 8, 2011 20:36:35 GMT
well, is it that ...or am i not reading things?? how will i know if its the latter if i am not reading them.... .... can you please stop being so fcking cryptic all the time! just say what you wanna say and be done with it, and then we can all get on with getting on ......or not as the case may be.....
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Post by phil on Jul 8, 2011 22:09:08 GMT
well i aint a doctor and i seem to have pain free migraines too! please try and remember this is a [glow=red,2,300] message board[/glow] NOT A
[glow=red,2,300] medical advice forum![/glow] right again i will try once more to explain this i am not talking cryptic lol a migraine is a headache! a headache involves pain in the head! there is no such thing as a pain free migraine! i'll give you a senario to try and make you understand o.k you go to the G.P Boo: doctor i'm having optical migrains G.P: ok how frequent are these attacks? boo: well i've had X amount GP: ok how long does the headache last? boo: headaches g.p thinks for fuck sake i got a waiting room full and i got to deal with this! its going around the houses where as you say you're having an Aura the doctor will understand you convince you're self with the mass hystria of this yank illness of optical "pain free" migraines you will just get on the doctors tits if you would have read the link i posted you would understand what a migraine is!
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Post by boo on Jul 9, 2011 13:00:55 GMT
1. I am not in a fucking clique 2. I am not fucking ignorant 3. don’t tell me what I am thinking when you have obviously made wild assumptions about me taking things the wrong way, I didnt post cos you and your mate andy were having a spat, I posted cos you wont give the fucking soap box back and I am sick of hearing you spout on like you are the only person who knows anything! 4. so, who are the real trolls? Please do share!! 5. if folk cant post a reply cos its between you and your friend, then take it to a PM, if its on the boards then don’t get the arse if people reply, or have you just made a little clique of your own which others aren’t allowed an opinion on?
thanks phil, I am very stupid and do need you talking to me like I am 5
you dont know my doctor, how do you actually know what he will or wont understand
I am not going to the doctors, I am merely joining in a discussion on a message board. I am not convincing myself of anything, mass hysteria or otherwise and think its extremely arrogant of you to assume that is the case.
Don’t presume to know me phil
yeah thanks for clearing that one up, as the only authority on this forum, I really should remember to bow down to your greater knowledge on…. Well just about everything it would seem, is it worth any of us posting anything? Unless its to agree with you of course!
Jeez, phil, do you actually hear yourself sometimes?
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Post by ChaosLily on Jul 9, 2011 13:59:31 GMT
Wtf? I go away for an hour or two to enjoy a (damn fine) meetup and you lot are arguing again?? Phil, if anyone coming on this forum thinks any of us is an expert, they need to get out more. Seriously. I went away for months and still there are petty arguments going on making the forum an uncomfortable place to be. I see this one has spread on to another thread now - involving a new member angel that phil clearly thinks is andy. Just a suggestion - if you want to argue, strongly debate, wind each other up etc try using private messages. Or better still, meet up, beat the crap out of each other, have a pint and move on.
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