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Post by mccutcheon on Jan 19, 2012 12:22:59 GMT
Okay, so the thing is this: I have stopped taking strattera weeks ago but I'm still getting waves of nausea and dizziness. My prolactin levels are normal, thus a prolactinoma has been ruled out. But my doc wants me to have an MRI of my brain done. Hey, so do I. He also told me today on the phone that the chances of me having a brain tumor are very very very slim and that he just wants to rule it out. And while I'm trying to stay calm and be logical and rational and positive about this half the time it just simply scares the shit out of me. I just figured out what I want to do with my life so I'd rather have the time to actually do it Hoping to get the scan done next week, as soon as the referral arrives in the mail and insurance clears it. So I'm waiting. Which I'm not good at. And all the while I'm still nauseous and dizzy. And I keep hearing Arnold Schwarzenegger say "It's not a tumah. This is not a tumah!" - which I wish would make me laugh more than it manages to
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Post by seahorse on Jan 19, 2012 12:56:15 GMT
Hang in there... We'll all cross our fingers for you... On the positive side at least your doctor is taking your symptoms seriously and being thorough. And at least you only have to wait a week, though I know how long it can seem when you're waiting for something important like this...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 16:57:36 GMT
It sounds like withdrawals. Did you taper off slowly or just stop completely?
Strattera is a failed antidepressant, which acts as a noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor. Effexor and Cymbalta, which both effect noradrenaline, and known to have terrible withdrawals. So it's possible Strattera could cause similar withdrawals?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 21:15:45 GMT
Has he put a rush on your MRI? If not, he means what he says about very, very slim.
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Post by spikeyxx on Jan 20, 2012 0:06:44 GMT
I really really hope this is just withdrawal. I think it probably will be, and your doctor is simply being thorough. Good luck mate!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 17:02:12 GMT
Hang on in there. I think it sounds like withdrawels but fingers crossed.
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Post by Lame44 on Jan 25, 2012 20:24:00 GMT
Hey another way to look at it is that he's not just checking your brain for a tumour. Although thats one of the things he wants to check there can be multiple reasons for mausea and dizziness. Trust me I get full on vertigo for over 16 hours at a time n cant stop puking. He might look at your ears on the scan too and sometimes there can be a slightly mis-shaped/worn away bone that causes these symptoms too.
I do hope that it all settles down and that everything comes back ok though. I wouldn't wish dizziness n sickness on anyone I really wouldnt.
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Post by mccutcheon on Jan 26, 2012 9:18:24 GMT
So I went for my MRI yesterday and the doctor there immediately looked at the images and said he can't find any kind of tumor. I'll get the full results on monday but I am so fucking relieved! I knew that 99.9% it wasn't going to be a tumor, but that 0.1% chance is hella scary anyway. I feel like I put my life on hold for two weeks. got my bounce back now thank you all so much for your support. I didn't post replies but I read everything and it meant a lot to me
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 0:50:10 GMT
How are you feeling now, McC? Have the problem symptoms gone away?
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Post by mccutcheon on Jan 28, 2012 17:53:22 GMT
hey shiny, nice of you to ask I've been a bit better again since I decided to avoid reading on my galaxy tablet as much as it's possible. I've also observed that the wooziness and nausea seem to come hand in hand with headaches. I'll go to a neurologist soon. I suppose it might be some kind of migraine thing. after all there are about a gazillion versions of migraine/headaches It also help that I'm not scared and watching anything my body does like a hawk
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Post by mccutcheon on Jan 31, 2012 13:47:14 GMT
Update: Got my proper MRI results today. Indeed, not a brain tumor. However, I seem to have an arachnoid cyst. Wich is benign and doesn't even have to operated on if it's not symptomatic. But since I do have symptoms... still waiting on my doc's input but godsdamnit I fucking hate hospitals so I hope I don't have to go in According to the very reliable source called the intarwebs (hrhrhr) arachnoid cysts can have something to do with ADHD so I'm kind of curious to find out about that. In that case an operation could not only mean goodbye to the nausea and the headaches but maybe even a lessening of my adhd symptoms. So yeah, that's it so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 16:17:34 GMT
Update: Got my proper MRI results today. Indeed, not a brain tumor. However, I seem to have an arachnoid cyst. Wich is benign and doesn't even have to operated on if it's not symptomatic. But since I do have symptoms... still waiting on my doc's input but godsdamnit I fucking hate hospitals so I hope I don't have to go in According to the very reliable source called the intarwebs (hrhrhr) arachnoid cysts can have something to do with ADHD so I'm kind of curious to find out about that. In that case an operation could not only mean goodbye to the nausea and the headaches but maybe even a lessening of my adhd symptoms. So yeah, that's it so far. Glad it's not a tumour! I've done some digging on the arachnoid cysts, and it seems a that three children had where found with these cysts. " The cysts were identical in location, situated in the left middle cranial fossa, and involved the medial aspect of the temporal lobe". This is an extract from www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9153486, and all further references point back to this study. There doesn't appear to have been any further work that I can find. And in relation to causation of ADHD " a causal association with the ADHD is considered plausible because of coincidental learning and language disabilities that might be explained by temporal lobe and sylvian region pathology. This appears to be the first report of the association of ADHD and temporal fossa arachnoid cyst in children.". Any potential attributable symptoms to the cysts was not proved, and the symptoms (headaches/ seizures) went once dietary changes where made or methylphenidate medication was stopped. On the whole, it's speculative, and in no way conclusive that there is actually a link. There are no indications of sample size, or how many other children with ADHD where examined and didn't have the cysts. BEnd
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 19:02:54 GMT
I have hefty withdrawal symptoms on Strattera.. could barely walk straight.. like totally drunk.. with me working I just managed to suffer this for 2 days.. back on strattera after and very quick out of withdrawal symptoms.. some weired stuff that is.. but it does help my ADHD as well.
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Post by mccutcheon on Feb 6, 2012 19:26:07 GMT
hey, as long as you're good WITH the strattera - good for you I had major fucking issues with that damn atomoxetine... why did you stop in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 18:56:27 GMT
mccutcheonI stopped takin them as I also have to be on Antidepresiva all the time. I am also on Concerta and somehow I thought I try how it goes only with the concerta. If the concerta alone works then I could have possibly gone off 2 tablets.. But I found that strattera and concerta together seem to give me what I need. Hope you understand what I mean with that.. lol
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Post by mccutcheon on Feb 7, 2012 22:06:56 GMT
@canesmum hehe, yeah I guess I get it I take concerta and antidepressants (but only a minimal dosage) and they seem to get along fine. I do hope to get off the ADs once winter is over because I'm pretty sure the depression was only an effect of my untreated adhd, comorbidity and all btw if you don't mind me asking: where are you from? because I noticed the way you spelled "Antidepressiva". but maybe you just typo'd - in that case, forget I asked
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 18:23:41 GMT
mccutcheonNo you are quiet ok to ask. lol. I am german but moved to scotland like 10 years ago. Which means sometimes if I cant find the right word in english, but know that it is similar to the german one, it happens that I write down the german version of it.. lol sorry.. but cant help this.. as good as I gripped the language here and the Doric and all that.. sometimes my brain lets me down. lol I started with ADs not long before I got diagnosed as I was totally in the dumps.. I think my depression would be a comorbidity anyway but the strattera does not help it with it side effects. lol
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Post by mccutcheon on Feb 8, 2012 18:43:46 GMT
hey, I thought so! I'm from Austria myself. hm... what helps me with the depression is the fact that I finally get things done. so I don't feel shit about myself, and I end up less depressed. give it some time to work it's magic, get you back on track and then you can judge whether the depressions have gotten better and maybe some day you can drop the ADs as well. Or not. The priority is feeling better
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 23:22:39 GMT
well.. the way how things are going here at the moment I will not be able to drop anything.. I still fight with myself and my thoughts and come into depression every now and then. At the moment bad again. I want to do things where I wonder whether this is just my brain playing up or whether it makes sense to go and do those things I am urging to.. Somedays my feelings are just drowned out by the pills... I would like that just now very much.. confused ...
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Post by silversurfer on Feb 11, 2012 23:49:32 GMT
I think at some point either during the day or wk we drop in and out of the depression, for me the ADHD kicks in usually and doesn't allow me to go to far down that path esp with the help of concerta the atomoxetine was a different story . I actully had the thoughts and now bk to the other side realise its just the brain playing up and it shows as we question it. It's a shame you want em to be drowned just try and relax a bit and let them go but not run wild, Good luck n take care
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 23:53:22 GMT
Hello Silversurfer,
thank you for your kind words.. I suppose I just want them to be drowned as I am not able to handle them. Not now, not here.. I started to write a diary bit in this forum. This might help me to understand myself a bit more. Or at least to process the whole thing.. Even after all this time now I still need to learn and re-learn. I should feel better tomorrow.. this is how it usually goes.. Thank you! xxx
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Post by silversurfer on Feb 12, 2012 0:00:22 GMT
Hey, Maybe instead of drowning cos u are not able to deal with them now just put them outside to come bk to if you want too, I gues by doing that u have the option to revisit. Think the diary is prob a good idea, I use my nites in my Fone, everytime I have thoughts I put then there and transfer then to a pad kinda like a book of mirrors of me, can help but sometimes try not to dwell, accept and appriciate you will always be learning esp about urself and almost certainly about ADHD stuff , Hopefully you will be ok, Take care x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2012 0:10:39 GMT
Thank u. Do u mind me asking what app u use on your phone for ur thoughts to write down? I hate hand writing. lol.. everything what I can will be written on Laptop or similar. Those thoughts are coming back over and over again since years. I dont think about harming myself. Its just that the gras on the other side is always greener. I used to move flat every year because I had to. Something in me forced me to do it, if I would not do it I would get really bad.. sounds totally stupid and have not found a explanation for that one yet. mccutcheonsorry for flooding your thread here.. :0(
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Post by silversurfer on Feb 12, 2012 0:21:34 GMT
Hey Certainly you can ask no probs, I just use the notes feature on my iPhone, am sure there are plenty of apps for many different fones though it's good to keep ur thoughts but also just as good to know when to put them down I guess As for the grass being greener I certainly get that! I try now n take stock and evaluate how much greener it actually is as sometimes ur instincts are right I have moved at least 6 times in 8/9 years go figure.... Maybe try not to figure it out lol You didn't flood my thread btw x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2012 0:51:35 GMT
Now u confused me.. lol.. Whos thread is it? lol
I am in some ways glad to hear that other people moved like mad as well.. lol Its the first time that I managed to stay somewhere for longer.. I am since nearly 10 years in the same house. lol.. But the urge to move is sometimes so irresistable.. I think then I reflect everything on my man just to find a "reason" why I have to move.. stupid. I have Iphone as well.. so I have a look into that.
When I take stock of what my brain tells me and what I have (green gras and all that) then I can tell u straight on that the grass on the other side would be very brown indeed.. lol
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Post by mccutcheon on Feb 12, 2012 14:08:28 GMT
mccutcheonsorry for flooding your thread here.. :0( hey, don't worry, I have no claim over it
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