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Post by dishwasher on Apr 21, 2012 16:41:02 GMT
is there any sort of organisation or website specifically to help ADDers find appropriate work?
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Post by sherry on Apr 21, 2012 19:10:59 GMT
Brilliant idea if one exists.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 20:33:45 GMT
id like this kind of info too - im coming to a point in my life where i am in need of advice. - if i go for a career which does not suit all these traits im heading for a very unfufilling bumpy traumatic road. i know that many sites suggest self employment is one of the best type of jobs but this is just not available for most people
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 18:25:20 GMT
id say the best approach to finding the right job for you is finding something that suits your personality passions and interests otherwise you may just end up going from job to job due nto being bored and unfulfilled. but dont listen to me becvause im always tallking rubbish lol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 18:37:23 GMT
I once made a list of dream jobs and worked from there. Of course, it doesn't help that I know I want to write and perform (and fly, but the pilot thing has to wait til I have money), but I needed some sort of backup to keep me in food and under a roof while I work on that.
It had everything from "porridge wearer" to "baker" to "zoo owner". It sounds ridiculous, but it works.
If any of you wanted to make a list like that I could try and help with what skills those jobs use and how you could find something similar (or even that job, if it was something do-able). Just a suggestion, but I'd love to help if I could!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 19:39:24 GMT
Problem is lists don't do anything, I listed my goals when I was 20, I had plans, and back up plans and back up plans for the back up plans! And guess what. I am unemployed, unemployable and haven't achieved much if anything of my life plans. Normal goal setting and steps simply don't work! I know what I need to do, I know what I want to do and yet... I need work but my references are dire, my work history a joke and I am blacklisted from my career. And to even do nursing they expect me to jump through hoops
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 19:48:29 GMT
Did you stop reading halfway through my post? I was offering to help to DO SOMETHING with those lists. I managed to come up with a method for helping to do that sort of thing.
Please don't dismiss my idea out of hand just because you've chosen to be unnecessarily negative in every single thread on this board.
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Post by sherry on Apr 23, 2012 19:57:45 GMT
I thinking of changing direction in a few years and I am wondering how I can utilise my skills and qualifications towards a new career so I am up for that Cakey.
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Post by Mouse on Apr 24, 2012 12:14:45 GMT
Would the Shaw Trust perhaps be of able to help - they also help with the benefits side of things too. www.shaw-trust.org.uk/support_for_individualsit is not specific to ADHDers but I thind the chances of finding an organisation specifically set up to help adhders at the present time is somewhat slim !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 13:28:27 GMT
Hi All,
I am currently an employment adviser in the Jobcentre...any help I can give, will and strictly off the books, I can promise that.
From a personal point of view, the Shaw Trust is ok but not great from my referrals to them. They are not much better than Ingues or any provider, it's down to how experienced the staff are and how much understanding they have of the conditions I think.
I always advise people to look at the job spec. Me, I love processing and data entry and that sort of stuff. I look at a pile of work and think I can have that done by the end of the day.
CV's are a difficult one, mine is pretty much OK, only cover your last 5 years, try as much as possible to make the dates coincidence or your going to put yourself in that position of explanation, I am not very good at explaining things and make matters worse than they need to be.
Any question or help needed please post on here or PM me
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Post by sherry on Apr 29, 2012 17:23:43 GMT
I am a copper looking for a change in direction, any suggestion?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 21:05:30 GMT
Hi Cakedreams - I would LOVE help with my lists if you are serious? Im coming to a crossroads soon too with my work! I am v employable but I just get bored thinking of a long term career so I keep dismissing jobs as I know that I will lose interest!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 23:16:45 GMT
A copper? Not being funny sherry but how the hell did you manage to get through selection, train and keep that job? With only a fraction of my symptoms a person would struggle! And job security, pension exciting career on excellent salary? The grass isn't greener it just has more bullshit on it!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 2:03:12 GMT
A copper? Not being funny sherry but how the hell did you manage to get through selection, train and keep that job? With only a fraction of my symptoms a person would struggle! And job security, pension exciting career on excellent salary? The grass isn't greener it just has more bullshit on it! I've done pretty well in certain seemingly-tough areas because they came easily to me. Despite the severity of my symptoms, there are still things I can do well and without much issue. Maybe sherry's in the same position?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 10:37:15 GMT
I've come to the conclusion a career isnt the be all and end all of life. Im now much happy than I've ever been as I've accepted this. I dont want a stressful career, that Im constantly stressing about holding down and never having enough hours in the day to enjoy the simple pleasures. I now do a part time job thats suited to me that plays to my strengths that I can get up everyday and do, knowing I can do the job with ease. Ive got time on my hands to organise my home and my head. Im on the least pay I've ever been on , but because I dont drive any more and I organise my money, plan meals etc Im financially better off and far less stressed. Dont define yourself by your career is my advice. I did for a long time and it stopped me, seeing the simple pleasures. It took me the worst 12 months of my life to realise this(misscarriage and nursing my dad through terminal stomach cancer). We could alll beat ourselves up by saying we want more or should be doing more but why bother its not gonna get us anywhere live in the moment and enjoy every precious minute, because the clock ticks away.
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Post by sherry on May 1, 2012 21:46:05 GMT
Amblyman, I am a genius!!
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Post by sherry on May 1, 2012 21:48:43 GMT
Well said Meggie!!
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Post by sherry on May 1, 2012 23:42:28 GMT
Seriously, although I have an above average IQ and score high on skills and ability tests, the truth is sheer bloody mindedness and a you will not beat me attitude. I have also developed some very good manipulation skills and find it easy to get people to do what I want. For some reason most ppl like me and they are always keen to help. As for the training, brains and bullshit seemed to help there. I am a pretty crazy, scary person at times and I think some gaffas prefer to let rabid dogs lie. mwhahaha .
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 11:46:32 GMT
I also have hi IQ and ability and score excellently in assessments. However my inability to get on with other people has seen me off 2 paramedic courses and ended any career dreams I once had:(
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Post by sherry on May 2, 2012 19:30:50 GMT
You don't have to like ppl just fooking pretend!!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 8:55:55 GMT
Wish it was thT simple, I have multiple comorbidities in relation to my interpersonal abilities
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Post by ChaosLily on May 3, 2012 11:06:40 GMT
I'm somewhere between cakedreams and meggie here! I've also realised that there's more to life than work, but I need a job to pay for those things, so one that I like and can do well, without stress or guilt would be good! My last job wasn't hard for Miss NT but for me, it was a nightmare. So much forward planning and reports and everything I struggle with. What was I thinking? So how does it work cakedreams - and how much time do you have - and where do we send the cupcakes to?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2012 11:53:56 GMT
I find the perfect job for me with my symptoms is a job that doesnt stress me out that I can do in my way, but get the same end result as others, that isnt in a noisy enviroment with too many distractions, that I'm not being judged by my performance too much. I've come to the conclusion that Im better on a one to one in a support worker capacity. Or a small care home with adults/children with learning difficulties (as I'm very caring and understanding of others needs) that I can spend thime with the clients and not rush about like I would in a large care home. Failing that a postwoman or working in a supermarket as on a checkout. I dont strive for the big buck or career anymore because I dont want the stress. I can manage quite happily by economising, rather than coming home from work worrying about how I'm performing, and waiting for the next bombshell. I dont get or feel that any more If anything I feel calm (if not a little bored sometimes). But I have more time for me, Im not so impulsive, my house is clean tidy and organised. I spend time gardening, baking and crafting which I love. Im more of a supportive friend as I remember to ask how they are etc (as mind not so jumbled) so I dont come across as selfish or self absorbed to them. I dont argue with my partner so much as Im not so stress and more easy going. What Im saying is I've let go of the hang ups and the hankering after things that are beyong my capabilties (yes I have a degree and many many qualifications, yes I scored very high in Iq test etc) but it changes nothing. There is a big difference betweehn getting somthing on paper and putting it into practice. Id rather be slightly bored than stressed out. Ive got off the roller coaster of damaging self esteem and slowed right down. Ive always been a happy person, even when things have knocked me Im like a ping pong ball I bounce back. But Ive finally at 35 accepted who I am and what Im about, and accept that certain things about my adhd will never change. No reading books or popping loads of meds will change that.
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Post by sherry on May 4, 2012 18:22:45 GMT
Once again well said Meggie.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2012 9:15:35 GMT
Meggie, i really admire the advice you have given. it’s great to see that you are content and happy within yourself. I’m very jealous actually.
a part of me wishes that i could just accept certain aspects of me but I’m still at a battling stage. I dont even have a diagnosis yet.
Despite how much i struggle with everything something inside me wont let me settle.i have the vison and ability but i just cant materialise it. I totally see what you mean about theory and practise. Im quite good academically but applying it to the real world is a different ball game !.
i have to keep striving for more. i hate it. but like you said if i settle im really bored and often incontent with myself. its almost as if im always going to be someone who is unfulfilled and constantly struggling.
i do hope one day i can find a balance and be happy with myself.
Gem
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Post by cleverliteral on Jun 17, 2012 0:38:48 GMT
Meggie, what is the job you are referring to? I second gemma21, I think it sounds great that you've found a job like that. Does anyone have advice on the type of job that could suit people with ADHD symptoms? Is it hard to find one?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 18:16:27 GMT
That question's been asked before and it's tricky. While many ADHDers share traits such as creativity and lateral thinking, a good job-fit depends on so much more than just ADHD traits. The individual's personality, social orientation, tastes and preferences, physical attributes...they all add to the mix. I think there's a thread somewhere where people list their past jobs, and it's as diverse as real life. Even when you get an ADHDer in a role that looks unlikely to work, you may find that the individual nonetheless manages to pull it off. I got away with being a 'regulator' for many years, and still work in compliance. For someone who has a tendency to take calculated risks, is prepared to break rules when it looks like the right thing to do (IMHO ), hates having to plan or follow a plan - or a procedure - won't learn stuff, reads as little as I can to survive, really loathes admin... ...I do pretty well. But I've been told throughout my career 'you're not like the others'. Sometimes in a good way, sometimes not. On a good day, my ability to put a bit of 'jazz hands' in to pep things up and get my point across works really well. On a bad day, the list above takes over. But in the end, I do what I do because I find it interesting - it's a huge mind-puzzle of interconnected factors - and, really importantly, being good at it it lets me make a difference. After that, the ADHD is just grit in the machine.
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Post by cleverliteral on Jun 17, 2012 18:44:24 GMT
oooshiny!, thanks for a reply. Very useful. Except I don't know what a "regulator" and "compliance" means. :-) But it sounds good. I also don't learn stuff, don't read much in my usual state. I'm a somewhat good looking guy, and ideally I'd like to be able to talk to people in my job (with working meds, if the job will let me to pay for them) but not having to learn a whole lot to do it. Just something general and simple. Maybe to sell something in some kind of shop. I don't know.
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Post by cleverliteral on Jun 17, 2012 18:51:08 GMT
I think the problem for us ADDers is that if we don't get medicated soon enough, then our personality becomes unbalanced and it becomes hard to fix it just in a couple of years of treatment. All our lives we lived chasing the dopamine. That's why I would like some kind of suitable job for my skewed unbalanced self. I can talk fine on meds. I know some different things and have different talents, but none of them are developed enough to really stand out. It requires medication, and I've only been on that less than a year.
oooshiny!, how did you find those jobs? How long are you medicated? :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 19:29:19 GMT
I wandered into every job I've ever had because it looked 'interesting' at the time, and I've been medicated for just over a year (I'm 50 - shh! I pretend to be younger ). So I learned coping as well as cocking up during my wilderness years . I used 'regulator' and 'compliance' as shorthand for someone who works in a very rule-based environment, where accuracy and conformity are, you'd think, going to be super-important. (again, shh! I don't always do things by the book! ;D). In fact, my job involves a lot of getting along with people, and trying to work out what the 'right' answer is by balancing lots of competing factors. The variables you have to play with are not always obvious - unless you're prepared to question what's could be up for negotiation, rather than telling folk everything that isn't.
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