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Post by mindfuzz on Mar 1, 2013 14:46:00 GMT
hi all i am looking for advice. I started taking concerta which worked well i was able to focus and felt like i was going to get some were in my life for the first time. But i ended up taking to much at a time i started to feel like a junkie. I would also get really bad anxiety in the afternoon the kind were i would not want to be around anyone. I have not taken any meds for some months now but i am going back to see doctor mason in a few weeks. I would like to try dex to see if it is smother than concerta. But i am worried that i will not be able to control my self. I would think this would be a common problem for people with adhd. I had huge hopes that the meds would help me put into action all my great ideas. any ideas or experiences would be greatly welcome.
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Post by claudhopper on Mar 1, 2013 19:02:09 GMT
Did you tritage or jump straight to a high dose?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 19:43:04 GMT
Dex is definitely 'smoother' but I wouldn't bother asking if you have problems sticking to prescribed dosages.
Perhaps a move sideways into atomoxetine (Strattera)would suit better.
In any event a good discussion with Dr M is the best course.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 21:51:55 GMT
1. You should not have jumped up in doseage of your own accord. 2. Dex is not smoother than concerta at all- in fact it is far less smooth, and you are far more likely to become tolerant to dexamphetamine than you are to concerta. 3. You should stick to a constant dose for at least a month, then consider what else causes you to want to take so much more medication: are you hoping for things that are unrealistic?? 1. Why not? Many of us have been given discretion to judge when it is time to increase while titrating. 2. Not in my experience. 3. Only once you have reached a satisfactory level of performance. It may quickly become apparent that an increase is insufficient when titrating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 21:54:28 GMT
hi all i am looking for advice. I started taking concerta which worked well i was able to focus and felt like i was going to get some were in my life for the first time. But i ended up taking to much at a time i started to feel like a junkie. I would also get really bad anxiety in the afternoon the kind were i would not want to be around anyone. I have not taken any meds for some months now but i am going back to see doctor mason in a few weeks. I would like to try dex to see if it is smother than concerta. But i am worried that i will not be able to control my self. I would think this would be a common problem for people with adhd. I had huge hopes that the meds would help me put into action all my great ideas. any ideas or experiences would be greatly welcome. This was my experience. Why do you think you would not be able to control yourself on dex?
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Post by annie on Mar 2, 2013 20:23:51 GMT
Hi Borrowdale
Would be really helpful if you could provide some links to the evidence based research you mentioned with regards to dexedrine. We're always keen to extend our knowledge about the research that is out there.
I do agree with the notion you pose about psychological help being more readily available. Unfortunately, for too many of the Adult Adhd services which are beginning to be funded, the funds are insufficient to fully impliment the NICE guidance.
annie
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Post by annie on Mar 2, 2013 20:28:15 GMT
Ooops - just realised Borrowdale might have left the forum?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 1:26:12 GMT
1. Why not? Many of us have been given discretion to judge when it is time to increase while titrating. 2. Not in my experience. 3. Only once you have reached a satisfactory level of performance. It may quickly become apparent that an increase is insufficient when titrating. 1. Because it seems clear that this was not what he had agreed with the prescriber, unless I am reading it wrong. Ending up on too high a dose or developing tolerance is partly what the OP is troubled with. Gentle increases in does within agreed limits is what works better, as opposed to some kind of hoping-for-more unrestrained increase. 2. I am not doubting your experience, but advice to others is probably best based on convincing trial evidence rather than what you as what one person think. There is a massive evidence base that dex is far quicker in onset, shorter in duration, and seems to have more of a 'heavy-headed'- feel to it as reported by patients. Even the BNF describes it as being more prone to side effects; it is the third drug line for a reason. 3. Eh? Your point is unconnected to my post. I was expressing that people sometimes mix up their expectations from a medication with their expectations for improvement in life generally- this is why slow incrementation is better, because the psychology catches up with the pharmacology once pharma equilibrium is reached. A bit like if a dude loves his new wheelchair but a month in, he doesnt use it that much. even though the wheelchair still works, but he realises he actually prefers crutches. I hope this response is taken in the nest possible way- just adding to the mix of opinions. Don't talk shite. There is no evidence (based on fact) for your claim, let alone "massive evidence" Dex has a much longer half life than MPH. In my experience (and most other peoples) it also lasts longer due to this, and tails off slower when it does start leaving the body, leading to either a less severe crash, or none at all. i.e. smoother. Please put "in my experience" if you have taken it, and found something different from most people. Then others looking for information on this site will get the correct information. If you don't have ADHD, then what the hell are you doing commenting on the differences in the drugs prescribed for it? John
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Post by J on Mar 3, 2013 15:27:23 GMT
But i ended up taking to much at a time i started to feel like a junkie. I would also get really bad anxiety in the afternoon the kind were i would not want to be around anyone. I would like to try dex to see if it is smother than concerta. But i am worried that i will not be able to control my self. I would think this would be a common problem for people with adhd. Sounds like you’ve abused your Concerta which will make you feel like a junkie and in turn could increase your anxiety. Do you have a history of drug abuse? It is common amongst people with ADHD but using suitable medication as prescribed can help with this.
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Post by Kathymel on Mar 3, 2013 16:09:02 GMT
But i ended up taking to much at a time i started to feel like a junkie. I would also get really bad anxiety in the afternoon the kind were i would not want to be around anyone. I would like to try dex to see if it is smother than concerta. But i am worried that i will not be able to control my self. I would think this would be a common problem for people with adhd. Sounds like you’ve abused your Concerta which will make you feel like a junkie and in turn could increase your anxiety. Do you have a history of drug abuse? It is common amongst people with ADHD but using suitable medication as prescribed can help with this. And the experience/expertise that leads you to say this is, J? Apologies if I'm wrong, but you sound familiar.
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Post by J on Mar 3, 2013 16:51:39 GMT
And the experience/expertise that leads you to say this is, J? Apologies if I'm wrong, but you sound familiar. I was signed up on here for a while until recently but deleted my account on impulse. Posts remain as John65 which I thought would be deleted when account went, not happy about this. Can these be removed or my name changed on the posts? I digress... Kathy, the experience and expertise is my own, through many years as a drug user, through my work and through my own ADHD and recent treatment.
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Post by mindfuzz on Mar 4, 2013 0:08:14 GMT
I did have high hopes for the meds when i started them but my life was in a bit of a mess any how which is the story of my life . I thought the meds would sort all my issues. I could bore you with my life story which I won't do. But i have had a drug and alcohol problem in the past.
So i dont think i can be trusted with these sort of meds. Which is a shame as I really noticed them working well at the beginning.
I have found myself just accepting who I am and not beating myself up all though I do get very frustrated at my disorganised life.. But things could be worse.... Will see wot the doc says
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