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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 0:44:54 GMT
I have to say, that even though I have eaten obscene amounts of sugar in my lifetime, I am not sugar sensitive (according to that link above). I don't get any kind of high, or feeling of being drunk (you tell that to a glass of water) from eating it. I've often thought it funny when the typical "don't give kids with ADHD sugar" gets quoted, as, if anything, sugar calms me down rather than making my hyper. Am I in the minority here? I'd like other peoples input, as from previous experiences with seratonin enhancing drugs, I think I have too much seratonin, or at least, too many seratonin receptors.
thanks
John
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Post by cheekybuddha on May 29, 2013 6:49:18 GMT
"or feeling of being drunk (you tell that to a glass of water) " ;D ;D
Lol. I don't know about excess serotonin, it's something I haven't come across but no doubt exists.
For me, I don't feel drunk either , (if only!) It's very subtle, I'm only realising now in the context of greater knowledge that it has a chemical affect,
I used to think I just 'liked' sugar without realising why.
For me it helps me think clearer, reduces scattered and anxious feelings and can cheer me up if I feel low. (Albeit temporarily) and yes it's calming rather than elevating for me.
I can crave it in those situations and realise as a kid I was self medicating my feelings, rushes and spaciness the best way I knew how.
So in that way I feel I'm sugar sensitive as it has some detectable effect, but some of the article is a little OTT to compare it with feeling drunk...which comes as we know from fermented sugar...lol
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Post by JJ on May 29, 2013 10:04:59 GMT
This is actually on the NHS website: "Some people may notice a link between types of food and worsening ADHD symptoms. For example, sugar and caffeine are often blamed for aggravating hyperactivity" Its no wonder there's all these misconceptions about adhd and daily mail comments about parents just giving their children too many sweets / cola etc then drugging them up with ritalin to counteract the effects of their neglect... I know there are some that differ, but caffeine helps me focus and I've seen enough posts from other coffee junkies here to know it's common And as far as sugar goes, Russell Barkley says that we should make sure we've eaten and have enough glucose cos our brains need more than most people (to help all the right bits light up properly) - obviously his explanation was a bit more scientific than that
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Post by simonwgill on May 29, 2013 10:08:19 GMT
And as far as sugar goes, Russell Barkley says that we should make sure we've eaten and have enough glucose cos our brains need more than most people (to help all the right bits light up properly) - obviously his explanation was a bit more scientific than that Don't know what it's like for everybody on the meds... but I can't imagine not eating "something" often.
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Post by JJ on May 29, 2013 10:15:27 GMT
Lol! Least you can say your scoffing has practically been prescribed for you!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:03:08 GMT
Don't know what it's like for everybody on the meds... but I can't imagine not eating "something" often. Howd you mean?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 22:42:01 GMT
I did a bit of research last night after posting (alright, I hyperfocused on it till the early hours).
I found some really interesting articles/papers that put everything into place. Unfortunately, I can't remember offhand which information was from which article now.
Anyway, to the point.
The reason that some of us on here are not on best terms with SSRIs is that our blood is unusually high in serotonin. Our brains, however, are deficient in it in some areas. We process serotonin differently to neurotypicals. This would explain why I've found it so difficult to know if I have too much, or too little Serotonin - I have both.
Also, having elevated serotonin levels can give similar effects to having too little serotonin (anxiety, brain fog, depression etc).
I'll post links when I remember where I read all this.
John
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Post by JJ on May 29, 2013 22:53:20 GMT
That's really interesting John. Did what you read give any suggestions for depression treatment then?
Also, I was reading about sertraline the other day (cos I had a terrible time on it, took,higher and higher doses and was practically catatonic with lack of motivation, no concentration etc plus jaw clenching like a drug addict. what I read (which may have been wiki) was that in higher doses it starts working on dopamine and norepinephrine and decreases them. Maybe that's not specific to sertraline (effect on dopamine/norepinephrine) and just what happens with too much serotonin - which would explain adhd getting worse...
Saying that, I have used it before and it worked (not in such high doses though)
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Post by simonwgill on May 30, 2013 1:49:29 GMT
Don't know what it's like for everybody on the meds... but I can't imagine not eating "something" often. Howd you mean? I remember hearing that medication reduces appetite, so they may be the ones that Dr Barkley was talking to about making sure to eat regularly.
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Post by cheekybuddha on May 30, 2013 4:14:12 GMT
Hi JJ
I took Sertraline for two years, it seemed to work at first but in the end I was too unable to get doing anything on it. I was exhausted because it stopped me sleeping properly, I used to wake up so tired, but also my jaw was also clenched and grinding like mad 24/7 The DR didnt seem to know what/ why I was saying this, I couldn't find much online about it either, so I'm fascinated to read you were the same. The jaw thing was so bad it's put me off SSRI meds full stop. But I have depression and its hard!
I've tried the tricyclics- mertazapine, trazadone but I seem to get very agitated and pacing around, I also get a a bit suicidal on them
Im on this new one called agomelatin, which is quite difficult to get off GP, prob need psych to recommend as its new and expensive, it seems to be working mildly, but not really enough, but it doesn't have side effects really.
Maybe I need to start and antidepressant, effects & side effect thread, could do with finding out any that are good for ADHD &depression x
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 19:43:57 GMT
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