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Post by inca on Jun 10, 2014 21:43:14 GMT
I sometimes get strange noises in my head when i am almost asleep, almost like loud bangs and occasionally get the feeling that i have forgotten to breathe, both of which wake me back up again. Tends to be mainly when i am stressed and i have usually forgotten about it by the next morning, so have never seen gp about it.
Anyway, i decided to Google it today and found a paper by a neuro psychiatrist about it. Apparently it is something to do with the brain stem switching off too early (or possibly too late), so part of the brain is awake when another part is asleep. Not anything to be concerned about he says, but started me wondering whether it is related to adhd - in that maybe the very active area doesn't shut off fast enough so thoughts are still milling about when the brain stem has gone for a snooze. Does anyone else get a similar thing?
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Post by carly31 on Jun 10, 2014 22:27:50 GMT
I hallucinate sometimes before going to sleep. Apparently that's normal if you're really tired. I've never heard bangs like that though but it sounds really interesting. It's mad to think that you have sensation of different parts of the brain shutting down for the night. I tell you what I get very often just before dropping off, I get the sensation that my hands, tongue and lips are massive. Apparently it's called the homunculus- it's a how the brain sees the body in relation to nerve endings. visalakshiramani.wordpress.com/articles/wonderful-body/homunculus/ Have you ever experienced this?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 0:22:41 GMT
I hear loud noises like someone breaking a door down or otherwise breaking in.
Sometimes I'd stay 'asleep' - it never is, it's that half and half stage.
Sometimes I'd be up and rampaging round the house with a large stick checking behind the doors.
Now I have dogs I have the reassurance that if they haven't woken up and gone nuts then it wasn't real.
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Post by JJ on Jun 11, 2014 0:54:02 GMT
Me too with the bangs inca - and my children calling out to me - or other members of my family... Look up hypnagogic hallucinations They're not entirely uncommon - but much more common in people with sleep disorders (70pc ADHDers have sleep disorders) - and they're commonly also associated with narcolepsy, cataplexy, restless leg syndrome, periodic limb movements and especially sleep paralysis The last 3 are especially are common in ADHDers If you hear the sounds when you're falling asleep, they're hypnagogic and if they're when you're waking up, they're hypnopompic - the latter is less common. The forgetting to breathe thing could be to do with some sleep paralysis - some people describe a weight on their chest.
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Post by mighty on Jun 12, 2014 19:40:49 GMT
Sleep noises are weird. I haven't had it for a while now but sometimes I get all these voices chattering away inside my head before sleep
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Post by grumpy on Jun 12, 2014 22:26:21 GMT
I here sounds when going a sleep little bit bike planet Dave said like smashing window or banging on the doors , I also have have dogs and the German Shepherd can here a cat up the drive way even when he seems dead to the world. I now go to jump up but then wait to here the dog / dogs. When we go away ( we take dogs ) it can be a pain as all new sounds for first few days his on one so I'm up most the night.
But with your can't breath feeling sounds like something my over half was going through last year , she would be half asleep and feel like she can't breath but with her when she woke up she felt like she could not move or call out to me even though I was next to her.
The worst was when I fell asleep downstairs and she was alone up stairs she had a bad one , she has nothing wrong with her no ADHD no anxiety , no ocd , no over thinking , no worrys , but at that time we was having late nights and early starts with only a few hours sleep so we put it down to sleep. Went on for a about 2 weeks not every night but on and off and fingers crossed not no more.
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Post by nemo on Jun 12, 2014 23:19:58 GMT
I used to get that. Not had it in a while. From loud bangs to a weird whooshing noise rapidly building in volume until I wake up (when I'm really anxious).
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Post by danherts on Jun 17, 2014 22:10:35 GMT
I hallucinate sometimes before going to sleep. Apparently that's normal if you're really tired. I've never heard bangs like that though but it sounds really interesting. It's mad to think that you have sensation of different parts of the brain shutting down for the night. I tell you what I get very often just before dropping off, I get the sensation that my hands, tongue and lips are massive. Apparently it's called the homunculus- it's a how the brain sees the body in relation to nerve endings. visalakshiramani.wordpress.com/articles/wonderful-body/homunculus/ Have you ever experienced this? Yes! I've had this for as long as I can remember though more so when I was younger and have tried to find a name for it at various times over the years. Thanks for enlightening me. I feel likes my hands are absolutely huge, really weird sensation and sometimes I have to open my eyes and shake my head to stop it. I also get hypnic jerks quite a lot which can be embarrassing on a train or something and I'm never 100% sure whether I've imagined it. As a child I used to wake up hallucinating and I have this sketchy memory of a recurrent waking nightmare where I could see the devil and he was counting down and I had to get in my parent's bed before he got to 0. Bit out there, but does anyone else feel like they have a memory of bright white lights after being born? The experience I get most often now is of my thoughts morphing from a coherent stream of consciousness to bizarre subconscious nonsense or a strange dream scenario since I so often 'wake up' right on the cusp of sleep. On a sleep based googling tangent now, apparently hearing noises in semi-sleep is called Exploding Head Syndrome!
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Post by carly31 on Jun 17, 2014 22:41:07 GMT
Yes! I've had this for as long as I can remember though more so when I was younger and have tried to find a name for it at various times over the years. Thanks for enlightening me. I feel likes my hands are absolutely huge, really weird sensation and sometimes I have to open my eyes and shake my head to stop it. I also get hypnic jerks quite a lot which can be embarrassing on a train or something and I'm never 100% sure whether I've imagined it. As a child I used to wake up hallucinating and I have this sketchy memory of a recurrent waking nightmare where I could see the devil and he was counting down and I had to get in my parent's bed before he got to 0. Bit out there, but does anyone else feel like they have a memory of bright white lights after being born? The experience I get most often now is of my thoughts morphing from a coherent stream of consciousness to bizarre subconscious nonsense or a strange dream scenario since I so often 'wake up' right on the cusp of sleep. On a sleep based googling tangent now, apparently hearing noises in semi-sleep is called Exploding Head Syndrome! It's such a bizzare feeling isn't it, I quite like it though.
As a 4-5year old I used to hallucinate that there was a farmer at my bedroom door- can still see his face to this day- he stood in the doorway with a horse. I used to get up and try and stroke the horse but it's disappear once I got close. One night the farmer was holding a big jar and it was full of flies, he was teasing me as if to say he was going to let the flies out. I said no but he started laughing and let all the flies out and they filled the room and it made me cry. I kept seeing flies every time it was dark and my step dad brought a plastic lizzard to eat the flies. I could see the lizzard eating the flies on the window-sill! I had a stage when a witch kept appearing by my bed and I could actually feel her poke my sides- that was scary! I also hallucinated that a cockatoo kept poking his head from under the wallpaper on ceiling! I wonder what that was all about? Did anyone else hallucinate as a child?
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Post by mrthinkstoomuchaboutnothing on Jun 19, 2014 8:48:37 GMT
Hello all I'm Steve.....I've just discovered this forum and glad I did. I've just started concerta 18XL. Not sure how I ended up on this chat, must of been the strange noises comment, thinking it was linked to concerta maybe...foolish me!
I can certainly relate to the load bangs, I experienced it just after my mother past away,I was 19 yrs old. I would come home late on a night, after probably consuming a little too much booze (drowning out my sorrows)and I would lay on the living room floor with my cat trying to come to terms with my loss. Anyhow as I started to doze I would hear really load bangs, and I mean really load, I would doze of again.....BANG again? This went on for maybe a week or so, it really freaked me out. Haven't experienced it since.
There was another situation before that one, but different, when I was maybe 14 yrs old? I had fallen asleep on my bed and my mum came in to try wake me......next thing I'm telling her (in my sleep)to "stop it mum, stop it, I'm leading the marathon and I really want to win"!!!!!!! She poked me even harder and said "steve have you been drinking"!!!! I'll never forget that one.
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Post by leftbehind1 on Jun 22, 2014 3:29:13 GMT
Never hallucinated before sleep but wouldn't mind hallucinating that Penelope Cruz was in my room but yes only one can hallucinate.
Sometimes if I'm overly stressed I will hear my heart beating like there's no tomorrow in my ear drum and Can be overly sensitive to noise around me upstairs neighbour apartment living with someone is above u is a nightmare don't do it and if I finally get to sleep I will awaken in an hour just like that like someone has slapped me in the face and I feel very restless it's like flip sake cant a guy get a night sleep so then il be awake for 4 more hours until I get to sleep again, couldn't imagine what it would be like on meds I could never sleep in those things .
Don't think it's anything to worry about everyone has these issues us adhders just have a harder time getting to sleep because we can be wired at bed time , my sister who is non adhd would toss and turn and shout in her sleep all the time which is apparently related to stress everyone can have odd sleep behaviour because of experiences in the day or past memory's I can only think to how adhd effects out sleep,
I believe there has been MRI studies in the resting state of the brain in adhd , a non adhd brain would synchronising with communication were the adhd brain wouldn't , two parts weren't in sync I'm guessing one if these parts was probably the motor cortex I'm guessing its not in sync and running aloof then it may effect how long it takes to sync and eventually relax and go to sleep ,
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Post by inca on Jun 24, 2014 13:59:26 GMT
Haven't been able to read much on here over the last few days or so, but it is interesting that there are quite a few people with unusual sleep issues. The article I was reading suggested these things were quite rare in the population - as in a low percentage, rather than unusual, but that's possible not the case with ADHD. I am quite tempted to email the researcher to ask whether he has considered studying people with ADHD - after all, one more study couldn't hurt general recognition.
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