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Post by apreon on May 11, 2015 13:55:13 GMT
Hey hey, I'm almost positive that a thread like this exists already, but... emmm... I'll look for it in a minute ADD, and religion. I find that my ADHD growing up has caused me to question things. I don't like to accept things because I'm being told by some authority. For example, Maths teachers; A 2 + B 2 = C 2. Ok, teacher... Now why does it equal that?
I could behead a person for telling me; "It just does." Now this may be a personality thing, but I was wondering if any others felt similar. I've questioned Theism, or Organised Religion specifically as these topics always go well. My curiosity, is this; Are there any deeply religious people on these boards? If there are, did you come to this of your own accord, Were you (for lack of a better word) indoctrinated from a young age, Suffered a near death experience of some sort? To get it out the way, I am an atheist. However I do respect the rights of others to hold whatever views they have. And ultimately, I am genuinely interested in the 'Other Side' of this system. What I think I'm getting at is; if you are of a religion. Having no doubt struggled with ADHD in your life; How do you feel that your belief system has helped/hindered you with this?
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Post by tati on May 21, 2015 15:51:03 GMT
Hi apreon, For example, Maths teachers; A 2 + B 2 = C 2. Ok, teacher... Now why does it equal that?
I could behead a person for telling me; "It just does." I think I failed my math classes for this reason in some parts of math, you have to just accept and memorize a formula... I can't do it if I don't understand the reason behind that formula. I'm sort-of-atheist... I think there is some sort of energy taking the form of life, but I'm not interested in learning what someone else imagined it to be, nor I want to imagine it myself. I try to be a good person, and sooner or (i hope) later I will see if there is something else. But I was raised catholic, and I was a believer until I was 16/17 years old. In my case it was reasoning and close observation that lead me to stop believing. All the contradictions in my religion, and how life and people were, outside and inside of it. I can remember that my faith was derived from being indoctrinated from a young age, the isolation inside the group of christian peers in a small village, and the lack of contact with a sympathetic external world... some "less religious" kids were bullying me for not being "smart" and this led me to hide even more inside the church (and no, religious kid weren't better... even if they didn't actively bully me, they avoided, marginalised me as I was "strange" even for them). Me too, as long as they respect others people rights... and they are far away, at the moment (homophobia as just one example? Should I mention others?) When I was on a religion, It enforced my problems, by isolating me and forcing me to "believe" things without reasoning about them. Inattentiveness and learning to give up critical reasoning for "faith" don't go well together. (Sorry if I maybe look too harsh to someone, this is just my experience. Glad if yours has been better than mine... and if you are not trying to force other to behave like you believe they should, then I'm even happier.)
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Post by oldwolf on May 21, 2015 18:13:04 GMT
I have very little to say about any form of religion that is nice. It is a destructive, outdated and intolerant system of controlling weak minded and/or vulnerable people.
For example of the almost 60 armed conflicts in the world today, 85% of them are religious in nature. The rest are either against drugs cartels (brazil etc) or were started to gain power (russia etc). If there were no religion, the world would be much more peaceful. There might be one or two good things, such as charity work but again its just for money or converts and most of the aid charities around the world have no religious affinities at all.
If a person wishes to believe in a deity then thats fine, as long as they keep it away from me, any form of education, medical institution, law, government or ruling body.
Dont need a psychic to tell which side i come down on haha!
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Post by mighty on May 21, 2015 18:54:17 GMT
I both reject and embrace religion. I guess I'd call myself a buddhist, which I would label a philosophical approach to life rather than a religion; but essentially I've noticed, customs aside, that most faiths at their core are trying to say the same things - the same universal truths. They talk about oneness (God) being in everything. Although I do not believe in God per se, I believe this to be true. The universe is made up of energy wibbling around continuously. All separation between objects and beings is artificial, constructed by the left side of the brain so that we are able to function as humans in the 3rd and 4th dimensions, capable of manipulating the world as we see fit. (See what happens when this side of the brain shuts down.. notice the commonalities with religious experience? www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight?language=en .) Some -mostly Western - religions have created a personal God, which I believe to reflect the ego biases of the culture. For whatever reason, Christian societies are quite individualistic. It would therefore make sense that their god would have a personality, that it would be a being rather than a universal force (I appreciate I'm being very general there and that many do believe God to be the latter). Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, etc, all spoke of practices such as compassion towards others, and spoke of these coming from a divine source. It made sense to label this source 'God'. I believe this source to be the brain in a state of flow and focus. Prayer and meditation developed as real practices that were labelled as connecting us to God, but we now know that they enhance communication within the brain, contributing to the feelings of bliss, love, and divinity felt by its practitioners. In the same way that people used to think that God gave them physical strength (we now know physical strength comes from muscular and nervous system adaptations), people are prone to feeling that the truths of the universe are also delivered by a deity. I think that the 'prophets' were wise people, fortunate enough to be exposed to the nature of the universe. Their teachings have since become distorted and mechanised in ways that reflect the nature of other human beings. To answer your question, my religious stance has come from my own exploration, and I reject things that are taught if they are arbitrary customs. I do believe, however, that there are numerous nuggets of wisdom in religious texts, which should not be dismissed straight away.
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Post by tati on May 23, 2015 11:05:52 GMT
I have an approach quite similar to mighty... but more skeptical. Even buddhism is full of rules, prescriptions and rituals to follow, and has been separated in a lot of derived groups. In addiction, unfortunately, also buddhism is not immune to distortions and misuse from "gurus", psychics and so on. Take a wise person, take the words he said and the things he did... and you could bet that someone, among those who come after his death, will find a way to distort everything he said and did, to their own advantage.. could be power, money, or even just glory and devotion.
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Post by blaze on May 23, 2015 14:47:39 GMT
Texhniqually speaking its people who use religion to do terrible things, not the fault of relgion in itself.
Personally I don't feel the need to have a set of beliefs to live by, I don't believe in god, I don't believe there's no god, I'm quite comfortable living with the uncertainty. I don't think this has any kind of bearing on my ADHD, and I dont think my ADHD has any bearing on my lack of need for a belief system.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 16:35:03 GMT
In the case of the Ibrahimic religions 'technically' they're appalling - full of contradictions, extreme violence (human sacrifice, slavery and rape are all espoused) to the point where modern practitioners frequently reject huge portions of their own teachings, which is why the actions of fundamentalists is shocking.
I agree with the fundamentalists - the touchy/feely interpretations are cobblers and the modern iterations of Ibrahimic religions are so vapid that they might as well be social clubs, except that would put the power crazed clergy out of a cushy number.
My main points
There is nothing positive that modern religious groups do that secular groups don't do (choirs/charitable works/education etc).
There is a lot of harm done by the fundamentalists interpreting parts of their religious texts either to the letter or in the most extreme way - which becomes cultural (eg dressing modestly becoming an excuse for institutionalised misogyny).
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Post by tati on May 23, 2015 17:22:09 GMT
blaze The problem is that some of the wise men of the past don't even have invented the religion that has been built around them, or at least a massive part of it. Someone else did it after their death, by selecting and distorting what they did and said. For example, much of what is taught in modern Catholicism comes from the Church Fathers, well after the death of Christ. Even what has gone in the modern Gospel has been selected by them (the rejected Gospels are called apocriphal). So, unfortunately, religion is often a creation of those who did terrible things with it. Or in the best case, it's like playing "rumors" for hundreds or thousand of years. (With "rumors" I mean the variation of the game "whispers" in which people deliberately change the message as they pass it to the next player.)
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Post by oldwolf on May 23, 2015 18:37:06 GMT
ALL religion is invented. It is based on normal events that may have happened or were outright fabricated, in the same manner that myths begin and continue to persist. Nothing in any religious text has ever been proven true and more often than not it is explained by naturally occuring events.
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Post by contrarymary on May 23, 2015 22:11:37 GMT
this thread is becoming less to do with ADHD and more to do with expressing opinions about religion or the nature of belief.
given some of the opinions already expressed i doubt that anyone with any religious belief would be comfortable sharing anything about their personal experience
thus the thread becomes about religion-bashing, and i'm not sure of its relevance to an adhd forum
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:45:09 GMT
If religion doesn't bring out strong opinions I don't know what will.
Whether or not ADHD brings out stronger or different approaches/opinions is going to be tough to distinguish.
As long as it doesn't descend into personal attacks it's fine - I know there are people with completely opposite views on the subject to myself but it doesn't stop me respecting them, I just think they're wrong.
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Post by contrarymary on May 23, 2015 23:17:37 GMT
and if we were to start a debate on our opinions on the pros and cons of something else which we may not share, for example on race or sexuality or physical disability, that would quite possibly also raise equally strong opinions and IMO be equally inappropriate
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Post by tati on May 24, 2015 13:50:09 GMT
Yes, this is becoming quite focused on religion itself, more than on how religion helped/tampered with ADD. This kind of discussion is always very delicate and personal and it's easy to get off topic. I think. however, that it's inevitably unconfortable to share one's experience with religion. I reported my experience with it and how it "interacted" with my ADD and I was unconfortable sharing it too, as a non-religious person. There's aggressivity and strong "opionions" on both sides. Maybe contrarymary is right, it's not an healthy topic of discussion....
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 0:49:10 GMT
And the lovely thing about this forum is that it's 'blind' - unless someone tells you you don't even know their gender (yes, I know - it's a voluntary 'box tick'), never mind any other detail of their life.
For the most part we get along famously because we're all pulling in pretty much the same direction.
I know for a fact that (some) users disagree with my take on religion/culture but unless you call me names it's not going to matter one bit - everyone gets respect and I've learned a lot over the years, so don't quote me on anything I wrote some time ago because I might have learned something.
So what if we give our personal take on religion?
I have an interest ie I try to find what aspects of what religion may/may not be helpful when addressing ADHD, it's a long term project of mine. I'm doing it for everyone's benefit ie I want to steal good ideas and try to find ways around any blockages due to beliefs, so we can share them.
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Post by oldwolf on May 25, 2015 2:10:39 GMT
It certainly was not my intention to offend anyone either.
My post was an indication, albeit without any direct reference to my adhd, on my stance. If a direct indication is required then i can only say that it is likely my disdain for any one attempting to assert control over me, especially with the 'authority' of something as illogical and unfounded as religion is, negates any possibility of me accepting it.
We, the sufferers of ADHD and its sub types, are in the most part very intelligent, less likey to conform and would probably just forget about it anyway, having found something more interesting taking our attention away from it.
I was exposed to it at one point during my childhood, it didnt last long, a few weeks maybe, as i literally did forget about it and i have never been comfortable around people, especially in large groups. It didnt strike me back then as something i was interested in and it never has, certainly not after learning more about it. I pride myself on my ability to reason, my logical thinking and my intelligence, all of which it seemed, at the time, to not be required. As it still does today. In some cases being actively frowned upon because people ask questions they cannot answer.
If i have offended you ContraryMary then i apologise, as it appears you have taken great exception to what has been said and i was part of it. I may be wrong however.
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Post by blaze on May 25, 2015 10:17:42 GMT
quote author="@planetdave" source="/post/89407/thread" timestamp="1432514950"]And the lovely thing about this forum is that it's 'blind' - unless someone tells you you don't even know their gender (yes, I know - it's a voluntary 'box tick'), never mind any other detail of their life.
For the most part we get along famously because we're all pulling in pretty much the same direction.
I know for a fact that (some) users disagree with my take on religion/culture but unless you call me names it's not going to matter one bit - everyone gets respect
--- that doesn't mean terribley much unless people feel respected, and I WD agree with pp that this thread WD not help those with differing opinions from feeling that way, rightly or wrongly.
--- and I've learned a lot over the years, so don't quote me on anything I wrote some time ago because I might have learned something.
So what if we give our personal take on religion?
I have an interest ie I try to find what aspects of what religion may/may not be helpful when addressing ADHD, it's a long term project of mine. I'm doing it for everyone's benefit ie I want to steal good ideas and try to find ways around any blockages due to beliefs, so we can share them.
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Post by blaze on May 25, 2015 10:26:00 GMT
It certainly was not my intention to offend anyone either. My post was an indication, albeit without any direct reference to my adhd, on my stance. If a direct indication is required then i can only say that it is likely my disdain for any one attempting to assert control over me, especially with the 'authority' of something as illogical and unfounded as religion is, negates any possibility of me accepting it. We, the sufferers of ADHD and its sub types, are in the most part very intelligent, less likey to conform and would probably just forget about it anyway, having found something more interesting taking our attention away from it. I was exposed to it at one point during my childhood, it didnt last long, a few weeks maybe, as i literally did forget about it and i have never been comfortable around people, especially in large groups. It didnt strike me back then as something i was interested in and it never has, certainly not after learning more about it. I pride myself on my ability to reason, my logical thinking and my intelligence, all of which it seemed, at the time, to not be required. As it still does today. In some cases being actively frowned upon because people ask questions they cannot answer. If i have offended you ContraryMary then i apologise, as it appears you have taken great exception to what has been said and i was part of it. I may be wrong however. I don't consider myself a sufferer of ADHD and WD prefer not to be spoken for in that way- like I said previously I don't think my adhd has any bearing on my lack of belief. I'm also quite sure there will be plenty of people with belief systems of a variety of forms who are intelligent and question things and may or may not have ADHD. It CD be interesting to look at how or if ADHD effects our beliefs, but I think its v important to remember that everyone will have widely varying experiences of this, it won't be a case of ADHD causes *US* to feel only this way about religion.
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Post by blaze on May 25, 2015 10:48:01 GMT
Im well aware of that, but relgion contains huge variations and to plenty of people who find great comfort snd community in it the suggestion that religion itself is the root problem is missing the point of the range religion covers. I studied alot of christianty at uni between womens study and sociology classes (which have their own bias) and theology modules. I looked mostly at fundamentalist christanity in the states, cults and gender bias in the old testimant. I am no fan of relgion, but i prefer realism to faith anywsy. I think what people interpret relgion to be is so vast in its varriations, and missassumptions often that having a meaningful disscussion about 'relgion' can be a strange thing because eoples interpretation of that word alone can mean so many different things. When it coms to the awful things 'relgion' does its important to note its people not relgion because others interpretation of relgion maybe very personal and making the afor mentioned generalised claim shuts down their exoerience of it, which isnt inclusive. As a slight side note tge afwul things relgion has done sre bssed on power- lusting after it, fearing jot having it. And the same can be applied to politics, money, etc. Looking at the psychological reasons underlying this is intresting-miller is worth reading here- but another thread. I agree with pp that the positives people gleam from relgion cd be gained from other forms of comkunity, however many find this source of supoort from relgion- thats valid too if they wish to discuss it.having worked in mh for yrs the source of confirt and strength faith gives people is valid.it can be discuss as preying on their vulnrabilitys, but that's the theory, and at the point your sitting holding someone's hand during a suicide intervention and the onesl thing that keeps them going is their very real church and minister and faith its missing the point to dismiss this as merely manipulating the vulnerable. ote author=" tati" source="/post/89355/thread" timestamp="1432401729"] blaze The problem is that some of the wise men of the past don't even have invented the religion that has been built around them, or at least a massive part of it. Someone else did it after their death, by selecting and distorting what they did and said. For example, much of what is taught in modern Catholicism comes from the Church Fathers, well after the death of Christ. Even what has gone in the modern Gospel has been selected by them (the rejected Gospels are called apocriphal). So, unfortunately, religion is often a creation of those who did terrible things with it. Or in the best case, it's like playing "rumors" for hundreds or thousand of years. (With "rumors" I mean the variation of the game "whispers" in which people deliberately change the message as they pass it to the next player.) [/quote]
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Post by tati on May 25, 2015 17:39:56 GMT
blaze Where exactly did I tell that "religion" itself makes terrible things, or that it's the root of the problem? I wanted to leave this discussion, but your reply makes me think that maybe I didn't explain myself correctly. This could be true as I am not mothertongue. Of course is people who do terrible things. But the problem is that ( some specific) concepts in ( some specific) religions are the source of those hateful behaviours. In the name of those concepts people get killed or harassed or discriminated even today. Some people still take certain concepts and rules extremely seriously, without even trying to understand who, when and why created them. Some examples of what I mean, just to be clear: - The rules of my former religion prevents women from becoming priests, as they are not "suitable" (??), and many religions prevent women from doing this or that, implying that they are somehow "inferior" to men... and this has real, catastrophic consequences on real human beings, because discrimination goes from top down. (btw I love how UK has woman priests ) - My former religion, after centuries of debate, decided that the soul appears in the individual as it's conceived (Church Fathers involved here, again), implying that a woman who aborts becomes a "murderer".... today, people gather outside hospitals, attacking doctors and women. Or inside the hospital, a nurse refuses to give assistance to an heavily bleeding girl because she aborted... - A bunch of religions affirm that gay people should give up sex and embrace chastity all their life, because it's "counter nature"... for this reason some families send their "bad son" in places intended to eradicate homosexuality. Or people get beaten, bullied, called names and in some countries even imprisoned or killed. The opposite is true, of course. There are good concepts and smart people in those same religions. I saw a picture of a group of christians marching together with LGBT to support equal rights for all kind of couples, and I really loved them. Yes, it's people that make the difference. And there are definitely people that are religious and can still reason and have a moral code of their own. Regarding ADHD, Religion, (intended as positive people and positive concepts in a religion), can probably help people with ADHD, by providing internal strength and the support of the community, even if this wasn't my experience, unfortunately. But even more than this, I believe that religious people with ADHD can bring huge benefits to their religion, by "thinking out of the box" and making the difference. Who knows, maybe the LGBT christian supporters had ADHD...
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Post by blaze on May 25, 2015 18:52:48 GMT
But that's to do with how people have interpreted religious texts and used them- not the religion in itself- like you say the same relgion elsewhere embraces women preist these days. People tend to make mass assumptions about what religious texts say and/or mean when in reality there are widely varying interpretations of what these texts mean and people/state using them as absolute isn't the same as religion itself meaning that. Spare the rod spoil the child is a great example as somehow (blindly/stupidly) that phrase has been used as justification of physical chastiments yet there's plenty who argue that the same phrase has a different meaning as the rod referred to is a Shepard's rod which is used for guidence not punishment. The whole bible is like this, tales with very different interpretations, sound bites taken out of context to be used against people, whichmakes it people who do this jot rreligion. Read in full the bible is a tale where the god changes and grows and taken out of the context of this any snipets end up lacking clarification and are then twisted to meet the purposes of people sealing power.
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Post by oldwolf on May 25, 2015 19:47:50 GMT
Such is one of th emany problems with religion. No one can agree on what it means, if in fact it does mean anythign at all. They twist it to fit their own predjudices, read into certain passages, always the 'dont do this' ones and turn it against people for power, position and money. It is a rare occasion on which some one takes somethign positive from those books and makes them popular with people.
On top of that, those books contradict themselves so much it isn't even funny anymore, it is simply more evidence that they are fairy tales written by Man and twisted to fit, if not written for that very purpose in the first place, Man's lust for power and control. As do the people who claim it is the 'Word of God', none of these people follow it for what it is, they cherry pick the bits they like and pretend the rest doesnt exist. If they cant do that then they declare that particular chapter or paragraph to be 'old' or 'outdated', remove it from the book and pretend that never existed in the first place. It is the purest form of contradiction that it is possible to commit. Not one single person can claim they 'follow the word of god' and be speaking the truth.
I cannot think of a single thing that religion does, that is good, that is not already done in a secular society. Charity? Nope. Homeless shelters? Nope. Food banks? nope. A community gathering for social interaction and troubleshooting? Nope.
There is nothing.
People are entitled to do what they want within the bounds of law but they cannot claim any sort of moral high ground simply because they believe in a deity (read: 'are too weakminded to accept the inevitability of life and death').
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Post by blaze on May 26, 2015 9:05:02 GMT
Such is one of th emany problems with religion. No one can agree on what it means, if in fact it does mean anythign at all. They twist it to fit their own predjudices, read into certain passages, always the 'dont do this' ones and turn it against people for power, position and money. It is a rare occasion on which some one takes somethign positive from those books and makes them popular with people. On top of that, those books contradict themselves so much it isn't even funny anymore, it is simply more evidence that they are fairy tales written by Man and twisted to fit, if not written for that very purpose in the first place, Man's lust for power and control. As do the people who claim it is the 'Word of God', none of these people follow it for what it is, they cherry pick the bits they like and pretend the rest doesnt exist. If they cant do that then they declare that particular chapter or paragraph to be 'old' or 'outdated', remove it from the book and pretend that never existed in the first place. It is the purest form of contradiction that it is possible to commit. Not one single person can claim they 'follow the word of god' and be speaking the truth. I cannot think of a single thing that religion does, that is good, that is not already done in a secular society. Charity? Nope. Homeless shelters? Nope. Food banks? nope. A community gathering for social interaction and troubleshooting? Nope.--- But like I already said this is a very irrelevant claim at the point where individuals are gaining support from regligion. Talking about it in theory is just that, the reality is that for plenty, the actual practical support and comfort they have found is from relgion- they haven't found it from other sources because on their individual personal scale those thing havnt compared. Suggesting its so easy to replace by other things entirely misses the point. There is nothing. People are entitled to do what they want within the bounds of law but they cannot claim any sort of moral high ground simply because they believe in a deity (read: 'are too weakminded to accept the inevitability of life and death').this is an incredibley rude and pffensve thing to say. This is supposed to be a supportive and inclusive forum jot one that alienates certaian groups. Its compleatly pointless to apologuise for being offensive then continue to be rude. quote]
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Post by contrarymary on May 26, 2015 10:03:58 GMT
i think when you start saying that "people who believe in a deity.... are too weakminded to accept the possibility of life and death" you are without doubt going to be offending people. it is hard to think of any circumstances in which telling people they "are too weakminded" is not going to be offensive.
we either need to consider before we write or accept the fact that we may not know everything about everyone else and their experience. judgementalism is not a particularly attractive or inclusive characteristic, whether it has its base in religious belief or its antithesis.
and is not what i would hope from a peer-support forum.
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Post by oldwolf on May 26, 2015 12:32:45 GMT
Poor choice of words perhaps, and it was a general statement, not one directed at any specific person but i have never been known for circumspection; beating around the bush only leaves more room for potential insult or misunderstanding.
The meaning of which is; the need for people to believe in something bigger than them because they cannot or will not accept biological fact, also the need to believe that there is something after death, be it good or bad (Heaven or Hell), because they cannot or will not accept the inevitability of death.
As it happens, i have been clinically dead 3 times in the past 30 years, there was nothing, i neither saw nor heard anything, it was exactly the same as going to sleep and then waking up again (Fortunately for me).
Heaven and hell are also used as a promise, or a threat, to be good people. Why can they not simply be good people anyway? Why must there be punishment or reward for acting like a reasonable human being.
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Post by blaze on May 26, 2015 12:51:15 GMT
But that's only your experience, other people speak of seeing smthing whilst clincaly dead before being revived. Your experience isn't more valid than there's, and its not a justification for making cruel and inaccurate generalisations about anyone who may have faith.
There are plenty of people who make similarly sweeping generalisations about those with adhd, I WD have hoped that considering we are all here because of a hidden disability that gets judged that people WD have more consideration for this than to do the same to other groups. I'm sure people have described ADHD asweakness, or mmental illness as weakness, or homosexuality for that matter- doesn't make it any better to do the same about religion.
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Post by oldwolf on May 26, 2015 13:02:45 GMT
Indeed, there are those who claim such things, but given that why would only some people see something and not everyone? If Heaven and Hell do indeed exist then all humans are subject to it, not just those who believe in them. It is simply another reinforcement of the idea that those who believe in a deity are somehow superior to everyone else and that propagates the division between the theist and atheist sections of society.
While i understand that my bluntness is offputting, please try not to focus so much on that. I am NOT mocking anyone who paticipates in religious belief. As i said in an earlier post; everyone is entitled to believe if they want, i am simply responding to what other people write.
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Post by Wavey75 on Jun 22, 2015 13:49:27 GMT
I love a good debate about hot topics like religion, politics, and the like of, etc.
I interpretted this thread as asking about how religion has impacted on ADHD, or along those lines.
I grew up in an irish catholic & protestant house in London.
I went to a catholic school because my parents worried that the other schools in the area would either kill me or convert me into a street gang, which would no doubt lead to drugs, killing and organised crime, or so they thought.
Religion may have impacted my development as I asked for a dyslexia test form my teachers and I was told that I wasn't Dyslexic, I was just lazy, but this was about 1988, when I was a 3rd year (that's year 9 to all you young-uns lol!)
I dont consider myself to be of any particular faith or any label such as agnostic, athiest. I prefer to take the best of all that's available and if it can help me in my life then great.
I struggle in life with ADHD so much already, to then have to deal with the complications of faith and the questions it raises, such as: "if Adam & Eve were the first & only man & woman on earth, who did their children marry, siblings?"
I've used some of the teachings of Bhudda to learn and study for exams, and I've enjoyed the biblical stories such as Noah and The Ten Commandments, etc.
I've entered the local methodist church to give blood and I've also thought about God and if there is a heaven or hell, but I've come up with nothing, but mostly that's because my mind has wandered off topic and I'm now starring at something shiny.
It's an interesting subject Religion. It has been debted, fought over and re-invented in many ways, but I don't know enough about the many organisations that fall into that category to judge ifthey are good or bad.
I think that I would say that religion has probably not helped me in my life, no one ever said to me that my problems and faults might be due to some sort of mental health issue like ADHD.
One good thing I can say that is sure not to offend anyone is, the stories that come from various religions and faiths and are made into movies are entertaining, regardless of weather you thought they were good or bad.
I liked the Russell Crowe Noah film personally, but the Ridley Scott moses film was a complete waste of my time IMHO.
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Post by twix on Jun 25, 2015 3:17:22 GMT
Can't help with the religious bit but I can show you how Pythagoras theory works. Amazing little film.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 12:38:17 GMT
I didn't know Pythagoras worked for Cosgrove Hall
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Post by elic on Jun 29, 2015 10:21:28 GMT
I was recently diagnosed as adult ADHD and I am eternally thankful for my very religious upbringing.
My religion teaches me self discipline. So when my ADHD sends my down a track i would rather not be it is my upbringing that keeps me going.
I have been happily married for twelve years and do not suffer from addictions.
When i was diagnosed, I knew that this was my personal test from the One Above and was therefore spared the immense anger etc that many others seems to feel.
Thank God for God.
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