chappy
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Post by chappy on Sept 20, 2015 2:32:09 GMT
I was having a chat to my mum and I said that if I had the spare money I would hire a cleaner and she laughed at me and said it was ridiculous! Although I only have a 1 bedroom flat I am terrible at keeping it clean and tidy. I'm not a dirty person and feel a good deal of shame and disappointment when I look at the mess, but I just really struggle to motivate myself to sort it out. I have piles of clothes that are dumped to one side, the kitchen looks like crap and generally it's not as I would like it in here.
So back to my question, do any of you use a cleaner to help keep things in check?
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Post by hermanli on Sept 20, 2015 3:31:44 GMT
My sister is only a teaching assistant but used to hire a cleaner when she was living in a large-ish house. Just weigh up the time it would take you to do it, ascribe a monetary value to that and compare with cleaners cost. I think it would be a very reasonable choice for many working class people. In the case of ADHD type pathological mess and disorganisation, I think it could have a very strong positive mental impact overall. You could also spend the money on renting a larger place or on trying to catch a partner who likes to tidy up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 8:07:45 GMT
I thought about this once, before I even knew I had ADHD. The problem for me was the realization that cleaners clean, they don't expect to have to clear a path to get through the room. You would need to pay a special fee generally to have someone blitz the initial mess, and then you'd need to keep things tidy enough between cleaning sessions. People I know who have cleaners generally run around and do a pick-up before the cleaner is due, which to me would just add stress to my day. The cleaner then will do a negotiated set of jobs such as hoovering, mopping, washing down the bath/shower, etc. You could possibly negotiate with an individual as to what they would do, but generally speaking they are of the "get in, get on, get out" type of people.
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Post by mypineappledream on Sept 20, 2015 9:21:24 GMT
I had a conversation with my occupational therapists about this the other day and she said that this is a quite common problem and that if I wanted I could get a cleaner to help me once a week (paid for ofc), I'm seriously considering it. The deal includes me and the cleaner working together for an hour or so. I would get a time set aside specifically for cleaning every week and help keeping me on track while doing it.
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Post by clubby on Sept 20, 2015 19:11:39 GMT
I used to have a cleaner and I wouldn't have one again.
When I am in my home I want to live in 'random time' ie to be my natural self. I like to clean and tidy in my own adhd way.
My house is not just a home it is an operation centre for overcoming a disability. I have memory triggers everywhere and I
wouldn't want someone tidying them away.
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Post by manson88 on Sept 20, 2015 19:31:38 GMT
This is one of the issues I have. I'm at a cross roads in my life.
Life gonna change big time from being supported by a wife. Encouragement, motivation, direction & so on.
Its not the action of doing. There's nothing wrong with me, it's typical add/mental health issues would have the place in a mess in no time.
Sometimes less is better smaller house just one person in it. With a mess in each room! Lol
When you have less you possibly will look after it better. Be more mindful, caucus what you are doing.
The place that I could be going to there's a key worker for each resident.
It's that or back to mom...
#Noteasyimtorn Manson88
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Post by petra on Sept 20, 2015 19:34:45 GMT
Sometimes less is better smaller house just one person in it. With a mess in each room! Lol When you have less you possibly will look after it better. Be more mindful, caucus what you are doing. One would think! However, I have already disproved this theory.
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Post by petra on Sept 20, 2015 19:39:48 GMT
I haven't followed the hunter/ farmer thread - I wanted to but there were too many words.
I have my own thoughts on this. I think I was meant to be incredibly posh, live in a mansion, and have loads of servants for everything (just a cleaner for me wouldn't be enough). Somehow, something went really wrong...and I've ended up at the polar opposite end of society. Not suiting me at all!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 19:45:54 GMT
Yeah, you were meant to live in Downton Abbey. I always make a disgraceful tip out of the nicest hotel room. I don't mean to, but I seem to only have to turn around and suddenly my stuff is everywhere.
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Post by petra on Sept 20, 2015 19:51:07 GMT
Don't watch it, but Downton Abby would be fine.
If you are frightfully posh, and hugely rich, messiness and chaos are just loveable quirks...a bit eccentric.
I'd be really nice to my servants too - even I would want to work for me.
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Post by clubby on Sept 21, 2015 7:22:34 GMT
To take this thread Downton a peg or two - the cleanest animals on my farm are the cat and the pig. The cat hunts the odd
mouse and then sleeps in the cleanest spot it finds. The pig is highly organised and just loves housekeeping when it is not
rooting for grub.
The dirtiest animal is the horse who considers cleanliness and appearance to be an entirely human affair.
I suppose, whether or not we employ a housekeeper depends on how important cleanliness/tidiness is to those we are
in relationship with.
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Post by contrarymary on Sept 21, 2015 10:11:50 GMT
I keep my flat tidy, on the whole - there is a place for everything and i try to put stuff away when used - i'll do a quick tidy up at the end of the day, or a bigger tidy up at the end of a busy few days otherwise the surface clutter clutters my head and i struggle to concentrate.
i use having something out of place as a reminder system that i need to do something with whatever it is, and have particular places where i'll put things that i need to do things with - like action spots in each room
i cannot function once it becomes messy, and my mind is so chaotic that i need to be able to look and understand what i see. (i strongly suspect that my memory,and visual/information/auditory processing have all been impaired by the combination of another condition & the medication i ws given to treat it, but that's another story)
when things are where they go, i no longer see them - as tho they are invisible. when the place becomes messy, overfull and feels cluttered (as now!) i struggle to concentrate at all, i'm uncomfortable & don't like having anyone else see it.
left to myself, i sweep the kitchen floor each day because i'm generally barefoot & hate the feel of dirt (we get building dirt/brick dust etc in all the time, plus garden trekked stuff & ordinary kitchen mess)& wipe down the surfaces as i go. i wipe down the bathroom sink when i notice it needs it.
maybe once a week I'll sweep the middle bit of the other rooms & the hall. that's it. and a lot of that is down to my allergy to brick dust (dermatitis & asthma) and that i hate having dry / itchy skin.
if it's just me, that would be it. plus a bit more of a clean once a month or so. and dusting - except for the In Your Face places - and getting to the floor in the corners & edges of rooms and all that would be an Event.
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Post by blaze on Sept 22, 2015 13:02:49 GMT
I thought about this once, before I even knew I had ADHD. The problem for me was the realization that cleaners clean, they don't expect to have to clear ua path to get through the room. You would need to pay a special fee generally to have someone blitz the initial mess, and then you'd need to keep things tidy enough between cleaning sessions. People I know who have cleaners generally run around and do a pick-up before the cleaner is due, which to me would just add stress to my day. The cleaner then will do a negotiated set of jobs such as hoovering, mopping, washing down the bath/shower, etc. You could possibly negotiate with an individual as to what they would do, but generally speaking they are of the "get in, get on, get out" type of people. It's about finding the right cleaner (which is an Adhd nightmare in the first place) but ours doesn't mind the awful mess, and knowing he will be hear same day each wk means I get sort of organised sometimes around this (by which I meaniI nag oh do dishes night before & carpet clean the night after )
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