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Post by Deeda on Nov 26, 2015 0:46:30 GMT
I'm 31 years old and I am being assessed for having ADHD. If you have ADHD as an adult, does that mean that you definitely had ADHD as a child? I only had 1 symptom of childhood ADHD (low self esteem through something negative) so does that mean I probably don't have it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 2:14:48 GMT
To have ADHD as an adult you must have had it as a child*.
Whether of not you/anyone noticed it when you were a child is another matter.
It can take some digging out and even have seasoned psychiatrists scratching their heads - it's not an easy spot.
*there can be exceptions (rare) but the child thing is written into the main definition at the moment.
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Post by hermanli on Nov 26, 2015 2:45:37 GMT
You yourself told me it way common to get it from head trauma dave!
But indeed, in terms of it as a neurodevelopmental disorder and diagnosis, it is absolutely a fundamental core point, that differentiates it from other reasons for the same symptoms.
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Post by computermandan on Nov 26, 2015 16:55:32 GMT
I have no idea regarding the head trauma bit, but from my own experience "straight forward" adult diagnosis requires evidence of symptoms in childhood.
Little or no evidence of symptoms in childhood with many adulthood symptoms have so far sent me onto a "neuropsychological assessment" that I'm waiting for the results of - hopefully before feb 2016.
It's a struggle for answers but not necessarily a diagnosis I guess. been told they will provide some help with symptoms if they decide against a diagnosis. As a guess this would be similar "help" without medication.
I'm 35.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 18:23:14 GMT
You yourself told me it way common to get it from head trauma dave! But indeed, in terms of it as a neurodevelopmental disorder and diagnosis, it is absolutely a fundamental core point, that differentiates it from other reasons for the same symptoms. That came under 'rare exceptions' (because we live in cotton wool these days). The term you're actually looking for is neurological insult which goes beyond blunt force trauma eg meningitis, oxygen starvation, FAS and a few more. Some of these can be acquired in utero/delivery and it's there is potential to have both inherited and acquired ADHD. At the moment we only look at symptoms, rather than cause, so it's moot as to the origin.
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Post by hermanli on Nov 26, 2015 18:32:36 GMT
My case becomes more and more complicated. You know I was exposed to huge amounts of psychiatric drugs in utero, I saw a study linking it to Autism but had since stopped thinking about it.
I also saw a very convincing explanation of how this "Neurological Insult" Phenomenon can be an Auto Immune one, and explain the Autism from vaccines thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 19:03:30 GMT
I'd take anything emanating from the USA linking to vaccines with a huge pinch of salt, though the auto immune thing sounds 'interesting'.
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Post by hermanli on Nov 26, 2015 19:34:20 GMT
I always thought the vaccine thing was utter hocus pocus tin foil hat business too. But if you consider that Narcolepsy is an Autoimmune disorder in which Hypocretin production is impaired (but also confusingly just like ADHD/ASD there are exceptions and alternative/unknown etiology too) it doesn't soudn that ridiculous does it. Ive had a quick look through my internet favourites, and realised the autoimmune thing may have just been something I'd deducted as one of many (and possibly especially rare) causes of Autism & ADHD - which are in themselves just groups of similar symptoms that can and are attributed to all manner of things and are not well understood. Some of the sources I was looking at were semi tin foil hat, For example Stephanie Seneff , who is a senior researcher at MIT. She does have a bit of a bias and is jumping on the GMO paranoia train in the USA to gain funding and notoriety... but, she does put forward some very plausible mechanisms that got me thinking. www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=53106#.VLmJKydGqDc
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Post by aldedah on Nov 26, 2015 21:26:44 GMT
I think the hyperactive form is a lot more obvious in childhood than the inattentive form. Some people just associate it with bad behaviour, but inattentive can be more about lack of concentration, forgetfulness etc,some of which may not be as obvious.
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Post by computermandan on Dec 1, 2015 15:21:50 GMT
interesting this "neurological insult" / utero/delivery line of thought... my niece (now 11) has suffered with clear autism/adhd/aspergers from a very young age and drifted between diagnosis depending on which consultant she saw last.
she also was born several months premature with a large cyst (official name "cystic hygroma" or similar) and it was almost her size at birth.
interestingly enough her mother was working in a dry cleaners exposed to the various chemicals that I know little or nothing about throughout her pregnancy. To the point that the specialist surgeons who operated on removing the cyst at less than 2 years old have pursued legal action on the employer for the damage to growth etc etc.
I guess it would be fair to assume the chemicals would have had some effect of brain development etc too.
apologies for the severely vague and non-factual knowledge on the matter.
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Post by hermanli on Dec 1, 2015 16:52:48 GMT
Interesting to hear.
My mother was on hardcore psychiatric medication from the 1960's, stuff that had to be injected!
She had tardive dyskinesia from it, and I was born with and still have a milder version of her symptoms.
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