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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 3, 2016 18:25:19 GMT
I've touched on this with contrarymary and clubby elsewhere and wondered if anyone else reacts like this and possible explanations. This morning I was walking down the street and a woman came out of a shop and I was so startled I jumped and screamed quite loudly. This happens all of the time, even at home alone. I've always done it and have been told that it's not normal by people who've witnessed it. I do it if I hear a loud noise or the phone, if I drop something (I often do), or if someone walks into a room unexpectedly, even if I know they might. Clubby puts it down to being in 'La La' land, which I'm interpreting as going deep inside your head (which I often am) so any intrusion into your consciousness is a shock. Any thoughts?
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 3, 2016 19:06:01 GMT
hello vagueandrandom i've been told it's common with both Tourette's and autism and am thus chilled (to a point) it's now NFM - Normal For Me
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Post by fudge on Feb 4, 2016 11:57:42 GMT
I've touched on this with contrarymary and clubby elsewhere and wondered if anyone else reacts like this and possible explanations. This morning I was walking down the street and a woman came out of a shop and I was so startled I jumped and screamed quite loudly. This happens all of the time, even at home alone. I've always done it and have been told that it's not normal by people who've witnessed it. I do it if I hear a loud noise or the phone, if I drop something (I often do), or if someone walks into a room unexpectedly, even if I know they might. Clubby puts it down to being in 'La La' land, which I'm interpreting as going deep inside your head (which I often am) so any intrusion into your consciousness is a shock. Any thoughts? Laughing. Out. Loud. !!!!! That poor woman you screamed at!!! And you think YOU were startled. Well. Here I have been bemoaning my lot and wishing I did not have the debilitating rubishness that is ADD, and then you go and make me guffaw out loud. At least life is not boring with us. At least there are laughs. When I met up with the London group one of the guys told me that he acidentally brought a big black bin bag of rubbish on a plane with him. It was a longer story as he told it. It was before Xmas that I heard it and I have been laughing about it to myself every now and again since then! !!!
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 4, 2016 13:44:59 GMT
I know! Poor woman! I was very apologetic. . . and it *was* funny. . . afterwards
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Post by fudge on Feb 4, 2016 18:07:10 GMT
I've touched on this with contrarymary and clubby elsewhere and wondered if anyone else reacts like this and possible explanations. This morning I was walking down the street and a woman came out of a shop and I was so startled I jumped and screamed quite loudly. This happens all of the time, even at home alone. I've always done it and have been told that it's not normal by people who've witnessed it. I do it if I hear a loud noise or the phone, if I drop something (I often do), or if someone walks into a room unexpectedly, even if I know they might. Clubby puts it down to being in 'La La' land, which I'm interpreting as going deep inside your head (which I often am) so any intrusion into your consciousness is a shock. Any thoughts? Dear V&R. Just thought I would let you know that I have been tramping up and down various streets today with a stupid grim on my fave every time I thought about you screaming at that woman. It has really tickled me. Anyway...on at least two possibly three ocasions I ended up making eye contact with people while grinning about you and got big grins back. There you go. Today your ADHD has spread a bit of happiness in the world! Your work here is done for today. X
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 5, 2016 8:44:53 GMT
Glad to be of service
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Post by anopheles on Feb 5, 2016 9:51:44 GMT
Happens with me at the cinema. Can't help shouting something at a shock.
Got me in trouble at work to. A rather matronly supervisor was flirting with the ID photographer and made a joke about saucy photographs. Can you guess who shouted; "Good God No!"?
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Post by fudge on Feb 5, 2016 19:21:05 GMT
Happens with me at the cinema. Can't help shouting something at a shock. Got me in trouble at work to. A rather matronly supervisor was flirting with the ID photographer and made a joke about saucy photographs. Can you guess who shouted; "Good God No!"? LOL!!!!!
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 6, 2016 14:36:52 GMT
To be frank, the 'blurting' is usually the funniest thing. . . I've come out with some classics. . just can't think of any offhand
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 6, 2016 14:49:00 GMT
Found a good blurt that I posted in May: 'It deconstructs the illusion of artifice' about HD TV
I've blurted 'I wish I was dead' loudly at a family wedding.
'rugball' anyone?
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 6, 2016 15:09:54 GMT
given the overlap between adhd and tourettes, i wonder how far *blurting* might be related to/ an alternative manifestation of verbal tics?
or maybe it's all just labels...?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 15:55:50 GMT
given the overlap between adhd and tourettes, i wonder how far *blurting* might be related to/ an alternative manifestation of verbal tics? or maybe it's all just labels...? I have absolutely no idea if they're connected but Startle (instant flight/fight response) an ADHDer and the sheer number of triggered neurons would surely overwhelm our, usually, badly constructed impulse damping system (I'm making this up as I go along, but it appears reasonable), which would come under executive function. Flight or fight easily explains the whole body twitch of a startle - given our wonky wiring an expostulation! might be a subverted form of instinctive warning to our comrades. As I said, that's just my take, but it appears sound. Ish. I have an inkling that Tourette's is substantially different because the tics don't appear to be obviously connected to F or F, unless the Tourette 'systems' are so skewed that the sufferer feels under attack a lot of the time. Entirely possible, of course.
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 6, 2016 16:05:56 GMT
as someone with tourettes, i will come back and clarify - when it's not six nations rugby
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Post by blaze on Feb 9, 2016 16:26:16 GMT
Startle reflex is a primative reflux in babies where they startle & wake themselves up if not held snuggly. Normally outgrown by the end of the four trimester- if you're still suffering with this you might want to see dr..... or try a tight swaddle ; )
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Post by anopheles on Feb 9, 2016 17:24:49 GMT
I don't know if I'm just paraphrasing PD, but I think we are startled by our own thoughts.
Interesting thought.
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 10, 2016 12:31:50 GMT
I didn't think it was so unusual blaze I also wake myself out of sleep from time to time with a start! I use a weighted blanket and wear compression base layers (as I've written elsewhere) which is a bit like swaddling. It mainly affects me when I'm awake though, and think that I get so lost inside my own head that if something suddenly forces me to re-enter reality it's is an incredible shock and I jump out of my skin. . even something relatively small and insignificant to most people. Ha Ha!! I've just done it now when the postman put a letter through the box!
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 10, 2016 13:01:56 GMT
i know EXACTLY what you mean vagueandrandomwhich i know because the postman put something through my letterbox as i ws reading your post
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Post by blaze on Feb 11, 2016 9:31:04 GMT
Op it was a joke- startle reflex is something that only occurs in babies, techniqually speaking. What you are describing could be hyper semstivity or being easily startled but can't be startle reflex in the medical meaning of the term
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 11, 2016 12:07:38 GMT
Oh, thanks for clarifying blaze, I know nothing about babies. . . .
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 11, 2016 14:44:53 GMT
in human biology, the startle reflex in babies is called the Moro reflex
but i do think our startle reflex issues could be related esp as there's good evidence about people who have this startle response (and indeed tics) feeling more comfortable with eg weighted blankets.
which is a similar thing to babies and the lack of swaddle
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Post by blaze on Feb 12, 2016 7:53:46 GMT
in human biology, the startle reflex in babies is called the Moro reflex but i do think our startle reflex issues could be related esp as there's good evidence about people who have this startle response (and indeed tics) feeling more comfortable with eg weighted blankets. which is a similar thing to babies and the lack of swaddle i remember reading some stuff about alternative therapies for duspraxia etc that was based on the idea that people with dds have never had their primative reflexes 'resolved' or something like that,but all the science involved debunked it. I think needing heavier blankets etc is more likely attributed to sensory issues, hypersensitity & rls. I wouldn't be surprised if babies who take longer to loose the startle reflex are also hs (based on my sample study of two ; ) so it appears like a link, but not necessarily a direct one to the reflex itself iyswim saying that, i am unsure the science on babies primative reflexes is 100% spot on- was discussing this with ots etc recently as they take hige history for my girls, and problems latching are noted (some vague possible links to dyspraxia & spd), so anyways apparantly according to every bit of science going how a baby latches onto the breast is the exact same primative reflex for all- basicly their jaw will pull upwards- my pair did the opposite & pulled their top gum down- which only took 4.5 wks of dripping blood, mastotis, pus & v unhappy babies amd around 7 bf councilors/lactation specialists to figure out- and every specialist i have seen/spoken too (including some of the countries top lactation cobsultants) swear this is compleatly impossible & they have never seen it before. I v much doubt my kids are the only ones who have their primative reflexes miss-wired, so am somewhat sceptical of the v interesting research on human primative reflexes. That said, it is a v v long time since i read it all- i think it was teen yrs i binge read it all, so maybe different now.
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 14, 2016 10:26:59 GMT
Had a terrible night of not being able to get to sleep and general twitchiness and had 3 occasions when I was drifting off when I woke myself up with a start! with jerk of head.
Maybe still have a baby brain after all. .
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Post by clubby on Feb 14, 2016 13:19:13 GMT
vagueandrandom. I have been reading a bit about the different types of brainwaves. Delta -deep sleep Theta - dreaming sleep or semi conscious Alpha - meditative, imaginative, waking up Beta - concentrating, focussed etc Gamma - super powered I'm wondering if we are supposed to move gently from one type to another unless we are faced with danger. When we get startled we are catapulted too quickly into another brain wave type. I think when I am in LaLaLand my predominant brainwave is Theta. When someone comes along with a load of Beta waves, I jump out of my skin because the transition is too fast.
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Post by anopheles on Feb 15, 2016 9:23:31 GMT
Talking of odd sleep, does anyone else insta-dream like me?
I know I do because I've nodded off while on a train and even dreamt after fainting, and both times not been out for very long.
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Post by vagueandrandom on Feb 15, 2016 11:16:49 GMT
anopheles I'm not sure about 'instadream'. . . I had a summer of 'faints' where I was only out for a few seconds, but it felt like hours and I woke up as if I'd been in a deep sleep with vivid dreams (except very embarrassed because I'm on the floor in a public place) I also have vivid dreams when I haven't slept well (most of the time) have been awake since 5am and finally doze off for half an hour at a time when I should be getting up. Back to being startled. . . I jumped and squealed this morning in the Dr's surgery when the dot matrix board beeped to tell someone to go in
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 15, 2016 16:53:38 GMT
i have a combo of tics which appear when i'm startled my arms usually leap up so bent either side of my body with hands up - just like a baby exhibiting the startle reflex in fact sometimes my shoulderblades almost meet in the middle and my abdomen juts out/back curves in too. my knees also draw up towards my abdomen so if i'm sitting my feet come off the floor, or my upper body jerks down to meet my legs. if i'm standing my body will often go downwards to meet my legs a lot of the time i'll also have verbal tics: the generic one is "woah!", esp if it 's something like someone stepping out in front of me. but if it's something moving up or down it might be "hup", or if it's something I wasn't expecting to see it might be "hello!". or indeed all of them, one after t'other never dull
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Post by contrarymary on Feb 15, 2016 17:50:04 GMT
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