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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2009 22:21:11 GMT
Just thinking about how i found out about my ADD when to much stuff going on in life and wandered how other people found out about the condition.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 18, 2009 23:54:45 GMT
About 5-6 years ago, I was trawling the internet, but I think I found an article somewhere.......based on dsm 4, might indeed have been on wiki or on micro$oft encarta.
Going for a referral request soon. I found this site only recently somehow.. Then I found the NICE guidelines !! good stuff.
Also, very soon going for blood tests to look at testosterone antagonism via estradiol excess which is probably responsible for my grand apathy stance.
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Post by rane76 on Aug 19, 2009 8:33:39 GMT
I've worked in learning difficulties, challenging behavior, autism some mental health, drugs an booze etc for going on 15 years. Never enjoyed M/H so such but L/D and autism found so natural, most add I come across was in kids and they were all really hyper, adhd, which I'm not, so never saw the link. I've always change jobs alot, worked on agencies, moved around. Told myself it was coz I wanted to see everything. Then about 2 years or so I starting working with a guy called Doug, he was a support worker at a home near Ringwood and he was add. Thats when it started to dawn on me, it was like looking into a taller better looking mirror. We were so alike even tho we had had such different lives, things he would say and do, the way he would react badly to things all started to make sense, even the fact we both smoked doobey to calm ourselves, which must say i have quit since 2nd Aug and its been interesting seeing the world thro different eyes. Led me to you guys, which i'm very pleased about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 9:31:19 GMT
I was headhunted by an ADHDer on another forum in 2003. She suggested I had ADHD, sent me lots of her notes that she painstakingly put together (much more difficult in those days) and pointed me in the direction of the best internet sites - and I did the rest myself. I owe her an awful lot - but ADHD being what it is we no longer speak. I feel it my duty to pass this kind of service along (not the 'no longer speaking' bit )
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Post by boo on Aug 19, 2009 10:43:23 GMT
an adhder being HEAD hunted rofl, now thats irony!
through my childrens dx
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 14:36:22 GMT
I lead a team of Study Support Advisors at an FE college and we have been enrollng an increasing number of ADHD students. I started researching to learn what we can do to help them and realised my son, then 23, ticked nearly all the boxes.
At his assessment, when it was confirmed he did have inattentive type ADHD, I was asked about me. I have now also been assessed and diagnosed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 14:51:19 GMT
Funny everyones diffrent storys all by chance as no real support set up or screaning forgoten generations. Makes me very motivated to work in this area now re assesing life.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 19, 2009 16:26:03 GMT
One thing is for sure, this site could spawn a lot of adhd "experts"
By the power vested in me by er, something I can't remember for the life of me, I declare you all adhd expertphiles. You are now tasked with the arduous privilege of something or other, oh, that's it....... You will take 100 adhd experts, those 100 will train 10000. Then, and only then will you conquer ArrADDis, the dessert planet!
Except everyone forgot the chocolate biscuits..........and 99.25% of them got out of bed late. pfffffttttt, going to lie down. All that smartass thinking wears me out..
Oh, yes, SNS, you are right. People just left to slip through the gaps of society. Cast aside.
Yet, ADHD apparently has a 5-7% hit rate, so imagine what sort of population impact that has.....the knock on effect of children's children being educated etc with adhd untreated...... Give it time........(wow, I love full stops)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 16:58:41 GMT
Never thought i would end up getting into this MH LD totaly unexpected bit like dx
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Post by redneck on Aug 19, 2009 17:21:51 GMT
I was quite peeved at discovering I had adhd. I'd lived 45 odd years struggling along and revelling in the fact that I was SO different and unique.
Then I found adhd. I wasnt unique or different anymore, it wasnt just my weird personality - it was a "disorder".
I wasnt happy. Im still not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 17:23:26 GMT
Ive thought about it for years but only recently read about it and realised there was a lot more to it than my hyperactivity. The only reason I started to read was because I had a few major problems in my life threatening to ruin it. Im glad I read
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 19, 2009 17:48:07 GMT
Red, Adhd is only a tag given to describe something until they can find something else to tag it with, I hope. You are right, to call it a disorder, suggests that the people who named it consider that it is "other" than normal which is not correct as it should be perhaps "other" than average...... Maybe you would you rather it was called Idontwanttolisteniwantandiwantitnowiwillwalkoffandrantandravewhenitsuitsmeandiwillhavemoodswingsuntilifindsomethingthatcanmedicatemesuccessfullyotherwisei willeventuallybedrivenmadnottomentiondrivemyfriendsandfamilymadwithcontemptandfrictionbasedissuedandimightevengetintodebtortroubleandicantusemybrainwheniwanttounlesssomethinglikeashinyshinyobjectoracomputergameorthemomenttakesme-itis? I know that for many people, getting treatment to help to relieve the frustrations etc is a wonder to behold. How many families and children are disrupted by what is defined as adhd currently? You can be unique Red, just lie on your bed and go to sleep........ It can only be for the better, not worse....I hope. Madscot. You probably went along fine for many years with your self-meds but when the stress of adult life and relationships kicked in, things probably got 50 times worse and you realised that there must be something different about you. I went to the doc last year and made my point about my pathetic, meaningless, unproductive, tense, oppressive (in my head) existence. That put a few things in motion lol. I think though, that things may change within a few months, so I should look forward to that and not backwards, I suppose. Of course, it's easier said than done.
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Post by annie on Aug 19, 2009 19:24:12 GMT
Interesting how you stumble across Adhd!!
For us it came after an exhausting few years trying to manage and understand our eldest child who despite having a high IQ and mild dyslexia presented us with extremely challenging behaviour.
However we only learned about Adhd when our so called "normal" child's assessment indicated his difficulties with inconsistent all boiled down to "Attention difficulties" (no mention of adhd but all about him "applying more effort") Only after many more months of trying to help him become more organised, did I go to the library and luckily came across Dr Kewley's book. That was the defining moment when I realised, whilst our children had different personalities and strengths/weaknesses, they both had Adhd!!
Red - we're all unique and none of us are defined by a "disorder". However that disorder has a habit of tripping us up too many times!
annie
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Post by boo on Aug 19, 2009 20:37:06 GMT
andy, hell of an acronym there mate
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 21:44:38 GMT
boo I wouldn't head hunt dave have you seen the size of him you would have to be Arny
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 22:02:23 GMT
Dont take this the wrong way people but i some times catch myself and wonder if im not getting a bit obsessed with it. But i dont know, it is a big thing and not long found out hate explaining it to people as sounds like your self obsessed and like hypercondriact and realy hard to explain.
Dont know like am hyper focussing on the fact like before just thought i was like everyone else and now very concious of most of the time running through my head instead of old life, now like am diffrent am diffrent am diffrent. Like that film becoming john malkavitch were the guy ends up trapped in the babys head. watching all the other people just getting on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 22:09:12 GMT
Heard Radio 2 Jeremy Vine show discussing ADHD last October. Summed me up. I couldn't believe how much I had in common with the ADDers phoning in. The more I looked into it, the more I became aware of my problems. Funny (not really) how I'd just accepted them before. I'm with you on the obsession thing Safensound. The more I discovered about ADHD, the more I needed to find out if it related to me. As I was so unaware of my ADHD quirks I started making a behavioural diary in which I wrote everything down that I considered 'possible ADHD' before I forgot about them. Also any childhood memories that would randomly jump into my head (at the strangest of times). I have become something of my own lab rat. Plan is to use them as evidence and also a way to look back and hopefully show me how things have improved after the very long awaited diagnosis. Downside is psych considers the diary keeping as a trait of autism
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 22:48:44 GMT
i like the diary idea just reminded me of some of the things i used to do and have been thinking how am stopping to do subconcously dont know if meds or better concerntration.
Want somthing challenging to do as want to see how i can strech my self at one time had loads going on sayin that things are picking up.
Autism cant coment know little about once again to lazy will have to look at want to look at other conditions see if any diffrent angles like stroke patients crash incidents as i had bad head injury as child and say you can get ADHD from but would say i was well wild B 4 that. Atticus had thread talking about somthing simillar.
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Post by boo on Aug 19, 2009 22:50:38 GMT
hey safe... I'LL BE BACK
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 23:02:33 GMT
listen to George lamb does boss Arny quotes has me on my back 6 Music mid morn Charlly Murphey! www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00m5swcGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOd morning Vietnam Life is life i cant listen every day as get nothing done Witchcraft you say
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Post by boo on Aug 19, 2009 23:09:48 GMT
ok, back again ;D giddy/safe i dont think its unusual to 'obsess' about something like this tbh. i went all out to find out everything i could too. i just needed to understand and try to make sense of my very kerfuddled thinking and of course try and understand it for my childrens sake too i started to keep a 'diary' too (just last week mind) but it was because i had started to doubt the very existence and validity of my dx of adhd, i think it was somehow about still just being self critical and not allowing myself to believe i wasnt just a lazy moody argumentative moody forgetful (did i say moody) stupid idiot! I also think it came from knowing how it is viewed and of people saying the old, well we all do that, i get that too, oh everyone has that from time to time etc etc etc (which i had been on the receiving end of recently regarding my son.... and that was from the school senco and it had made me feel like a fraud and a failure again) anyway, i managed 2 entries and now i dunno if i have said what i originally intended but better hit post anyway cos if i check it over i will start editing out and then realise i have edited too much and then go to start again and lose it completely and just not post a reply at all..... do you know how many times i do that !?
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 20, 2009 0:34:42 GMT
SNS, don't worry about obsessing, it is called analysis paralysis or compulsive thinking, or might as well be. It's all just a state of your mind. Like a computer 101010101001010101101010101010 It's just data processing. When you process the processed data, that's when you can worry. Boooooo, Just post the damn thing already and then modify. It works, trust me, do you think my posts are ever a one off
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Post by rane76 on Aug 20, 2009 1:50:23 GMT
Maybe you would you rather it was called Idontwanttolisteniwantandiwantitnowiwillwalkoffandrantandravewhenitsuitsmeandiwillhavemoodswingsuntilifindsomethingthatcanmedicatemesuccessfullyotherwisei willeventuallybedrivenmadnottomentiondrivemyfriendsandfamilymadwithcontemptandfrictionbasedissuedandimightevengetintodebtortroubleandicantusemybrainwheniwanttounlesssomethinglikeashinyshinyobjectoracomputergameorthemomenttakesme-itis? Well done sir, i tip my hat to you, well played
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 20, 2009 2:05:00 GMT
I aim to cause laughter or bemusement at all times.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 20, 2009 2:07:59 GMT
"boo I wouldn't head hunt dave have you seen the size of him you would have to be Arny "
Is that why he calls himself planetdave?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 9:23:02 GMT
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 20, 2009 9:53:43 GMT
Posted on that thread.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 17:52:39 GMT
Andy i thought the 12345 was like bad temper thing coz am like that have to count. Just feel like surounded by morons somtime s dont mean on hear but in general. Just geting some building done and the builder has decided it would be a good idea to finish end wall on top of drains putting like few grand on job architects not much better and im paying them.
Think am going to go and buy a pub for a pound burn it down and get the insurance that should cheer me up, pubs going for a pound can you adam and eve my sisters bought one.
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Post by andy12345 on Aug 20, 2009 18:28:06 GMT
I am more a victim of the moment...just triggered by people that make really stupid remarks about my issues when they should know better by now. Morons, I think you would call them.
I don't really suffer temper overload, as that old apathy word that I like so much usually comes into play. apathy = wuss?
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Post by laura on Aug 20, 2009 21:00:20 GMT
i cant stop looking at ad/hd i was starting to worry about the about of time i was spending learning about it! im so glad you guys do too ;D i was considering keeping a diary, i might go and buy one tomoro and decorate it hmmm. i am on my way to dx, but since ive found out about it (by the way i found it when i was looking for some answers to my sons behaviour then found the adult section and the penny dropped) ive felt different to how i felt before and alot better about myself im not crazy! ;D and i am different but im starting to be alot more accepting of myself and not trying to continually try and fit in anymore. my anxiety has got so much better but now im thinking mybe a little bit would be good but now im focusing more on the people that like the real me and starting to worry less about the people i dont. ive realised i like who i am and i wouldnt want to be 'normal' but i still have my bad days where i doubt the existence of ad/hd especially when i get called lazy by mum because my house isnt tidy arghh and then then i think maybe i am just lazy. and mood swings why does nothing else seem to bother anyone else sorry needed to vent ahhh thats better ;D
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