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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2011 14:28:29 GMT
i did this online ASD test www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.htmlthe otherday and scored 31 so i was borderline! i did want to try it again as i was rushed and i wanted to post the results of the test the otherday! so i did the same test as the link today i scored 33 on the test so this indicates i do have autism lol whats weired is i believe that i answered the to tests in the same manner but obviously i havent other than proving i'm indicisive this can prove how you are on the day could determin you're fate when getting screened for ADHD could everyone please do this test then wait 2 days and do the test again you don't have to post the results just let me know if there is any change in the results another thing that shocked me on the test is that last week my brother was telling me that as a child his memory was so good he could relay 5 cars registration plates he just passed in the street! funny enough this comes up as one of the questions my brother as a child saw psycologists after a stint of pyromania and the shrink told my mother it was a phase he was going through and told my mother to get him old typewriters to dis assemble i never had a bike as a child as my brother took it to pieces he burnt my mothers bunglow! i found out the other day that we had rabbits until my brother decided to feed them orange peel then drowned them and told my mother he did'nt mean to they just looked thirsty! the otherday i was going to the shop and got him a bottle of pop i saw him kick it over lol ;D my mother noticed the stain on her carpet! and he said that i got him the pop from the shop and must of shook it up! instead of coming out with what really happened he comes out with inapproprate bull shit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 17:05:38 GMT
Phil, ASD & ADHD are kind of like petals on a flower. Same flower, different petal. Dyspraxia (my flavour of neurodiversity) and dyslexia are also there on the flower. One of the tests I really like is the aspie quiz www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php , because it puts stuff into domains of functioning. Helen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 17:16:49 GMT
p.s. this test is about usual for me, says I am a likely aspie. Have spoken to the author of the test and she thinks my score reflects my dyspraxia because of where I get the spikes. p.p.s. Having said this 4 of the male members of my family are ASD, so I really shouldn't be surprised if I was!
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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2011 17:43:12 GMT
Hi Helen, I will have a go of this test if I can ever get my brother off his online gaming I'm posting this off my smart phone lol My daughter has been DX'ed with ASD and ADHD but as far as I know nobody else has ever been diagnosed with ASD!
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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2011 18:57:20 GMT
I did the test it said I was nero typical none autistic! But I'm likely to be aspie! If aspie means I am likely to have aspergers then that is getting phased out and will come under the new heading of Autistic spectrum disorder in the DSM?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 20:27:29 GMT
Your Aspie score: 153 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 49 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie John
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Post by boo on Apr 26, 2011 20:33:09 GMT
i dont quite get how to read the graph, what does it mean when the traits are on both sides of the graph? like your social one kiwi? and when you say about the 'spikes' what do you mean? sorry if i am being a bit dim i mean, i can see the general pattern obviously, but not quite getting it totally.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 20:49:43 GMT
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Post by boo on Apr 26, 2011 21:08:52 GMT
....and i managed to lose the link for the graph to paste it here a good link though, thanks kiwi.
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Post by kakema on Apr 26, 2011 21:19:45 GMT
Your Aspie score: 136 of 200 Your neurotypical score (non-autistic) score: 81 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie. No way!!! I'm too warm and cuddly!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 21:37:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 21:40:58 GMT
how come one can only see the pictures if not logged on to the forum ...if logged all you can see is [image] ?
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Post by sherry on Apr 26, 2011 21:48:53 GMT
My psychiatrist says I am definately not an Aspie Is ADHD closer on the spectrum than they realise?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 22:16:15 GMT
The author has done some correlation work and this test picks up on ADHD people because of the overlap of some of the traits - i.e. with my flower and petal analogy, there is some flow through between the different diagnoses To explain the graphs The left side is the neurotypical (NT) traits, and the right side is the ASD traits. Each of them has the same list of categories of traits, that being talents, compulsion, social, communication, hunting and perception talents for aspies are things like pattern recognition and memory recall, for NTs are things like interpreting non verbal cues compulsions for aspies are things like repetitive behaviours - called stims - whereas compulsions for NTs are things like making connections with people social is more specific analysis of the skills for social interaction, and a measure of social appropriateness communication looks at things like verbal and non-verbal communication skills - it also encompasses echolia (repetition of words) for aspies hunting is a kind of weird one - I think it reflects that the author is using English as a second language (she is Danish) and it is the skills associated with group vs. individual activity, and perception is when you get the funny sensory things going on with ASD - I know a number of aspies who experience synathesia - where they quite literally see colours and shapes associated with sounds or numbers. My graph therefore reads along the lines of: - pronounced aspie talents - a great memory and hot on pattern recognition - low compulsion on both sides of the graph - because I don't stim, but I also can't be arsed doing things like gossiping or following fashion like NT people do - balanced moderate social skills on both sides - and because I don't suffer fools gladly I do reduce my NT score on this, because I will quite often say things to deliberately provoke debate. - communication - the dyspraxia starts kicking in, because I score off scale when it comes to problems with differentiating speech from background noise, which is also a trait some AS people suffer. But it is balanced by good communication skills on the NT side (I am both a therapist and a manager, so this is not surprising) -hunting shows up the dyspraxia, because my skills are much better suited to individual rather than group activity...when your motor skills are crap you are really bad at team sports - perception - again showing up on the AS side because I am pain hypo-sensitive, photo-phobic and able to walk into the end of my bed most days despite having not moved it for 5 years. That is all dyspraxia Most of the aspies and auties I know are not pleased about the DSM-V proposals (and you don't want to even hear what the people who deal with personality disorders want to say about their revisions ) - because the auties feel it will fail to differentiate between those with kanner style autism and those who are aspergers - having only met a few people who have normal IQ and are kanners, I didn't really understand the fuss until I got to know one guy who was really bright and with kanners - and he was SOOOO different to people with aspergers it was amazing. For anyone worried this is "another diagnosis" that affects them, I recommend reading anything at all by Tony Attwood, but I post this quote from his website [glow=red,2,300] From my clinical experience I consider that children and adults with Aspergers Syndrome have a different, not defective, way of thinking. The person usually has a strong desire to seek knowledge, truth and perfection with a different set of priorities than would be expected with other people. There is also a different perception of situations and sensory experiences. The overriding priority may be to solve a problem rather than satisfy the social or emotional needs of others. The person values being creative rather than co-operative. The person with Aspergers syndrome may perceive errors that are not apparent to others, giving considerable attention to detail, rather than noticing the “big picture”. The person is usually renowned for being direct, speaking their mind and being honest and determined and having a strong sense of social justice. The person may actively seek and enjoy solitude, be a loyal friend and have a distinct sense of humour. However, the person with Aspergers Syndrome can have difficulty with the management and expression of emotions. Children and adults with Aspergers syndrome may have levels of anxiety, sadness or anger that indicate a secondary mood disorder. There may also be problems expressing the degree of love and affection expected by others. Fortunately, we now have successful psychological treatment programs to help manage and express emotions.[/glow] The aspies in my famiy are amongst the people I would want on my team if we were taking on any task - so them along with my strongly suspected ADHD former partner and my diagnosed ADHD current partner are all just plain fantastic IMHO. Needless to say, I am probably biased myself given that I have had so many dealings with neurodiverse individuals...but hey, I'm kind of glad to be biased this way.
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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2011 22:21:05 GMT
Lol the last two post I can see rasta mouse ;D
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Post by boo on Apr 26, 2011 22:47:24 GMT
helen thanks for taking the time to explain, and so thoroughly
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Post by kakema on Apr 26, 2011 23:03:02 GMT
From my clinical experience I consider that children and adults with Aspergers Syndrome have a different, not defective, way of thinking. The person usually has a strong desire to seek knowledge, truth and perfection with a different set of priorities than would be expected with other people. There is also a different perception of situations and sensory experiences. The overriding priority may be to solve a problem rather than satisfy the social or emotional needs of others. The person values being creative rather than co-operative. The person with Aspergers syndrome may perceive errors that are not apparent to others, giving considerable attention to detail, rather than noticing the “big picture”. The person is usually renowned for being direct, speaking their mind and being honest and determined and having a strong sense of social justice. The person may actively seek and enjoy solitude, be a loyal friend and have a distinct sense of humour. However, the person with Aspergers Syndrome can have difficulty with the management and expression of emotions. Children and adults with Aspergers syndrome may have levels of anxiety, sadness or anger that indicate a secondary mood disorder. There may also be problems expressing the degree of love and affection expected by others. Fortunately, we now have successful psychological treatment programs to help manage and express emotions. Blimey. You just listed loads of things about me that I'm either proud to be, or that I find get me into trouble. Urrr....
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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2011 23:48:55 GMT
i can relate to most of that too boo, just looking through old posts you can see this is evident. that original test i posted i had problems with answering questions as a question can be taken more than one way or one aspect the test helen posted if a question has a double meaning, making it indicisive to make a choice you can just hit the question mark
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Post by phil on Apr 27, 2011 0:25:32 GMT
test results just did the test again same results again just 2 digits down on last time lol but in the same ball park Attachments:
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Post by phil on Apr 27, 2011 0:34:48 GMT
lol at my intellectual result in you f***ing face teachers
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 6:46:46 GMT
I wonder how much of the nature of "modern" (i.e. last 70 years) schooling messes with those of us who have different wiring?
I struggled with schooling until I got some very good assistance on HOW to learn. None of this experiential crap - I needed proper direction.
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Post by boo on Apr 27, 2011 6:52:44 GMT
yep, makes you wonder huh.......
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Post by snickerz on Apr 27, 2011 7:12:40 GMT
holy shit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 20:32:40 GMT
I would be curious guys about those of you on meds - what would happen if you answered as your brain would want you to in non-medicated vs. medicated state.
The example I give is an ASD one - but hopefully it helps explain what I mean
One of the questions is about whether you get upset by not being able to sit in your own chair The "correct" NT answer is NO The ASD response is YES I am socialised to the NT response, but I hate sitting in a seat without my back to the wall, because a) people can sneak up on me without me seeing and b) having a wall behind me helps me differentiate sounds from words. So my response to that question was "sometimes".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 20:45:03 GMT
I don't think I differentiate between the two states.
My default setting is unmedicated and the medicated overlay doesn't seem to touch my core responses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 20:51:40 GMT
@ dave - interesting.
My scores become more NT if I do a lot of the right kind of exercise...the kind that stimuates my proprioception etc.
Sadly, I don't have the time (or the motivation) to do 3 hours of intensive exercise each day. I felt bloody marvelous after 5 hours of mountain biking on Monday. Getting the rebound today though - walking into really large things and spilling ever cup of tea I had :-(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 20:56:27 GMT
I can see how the vagaries of mood and medication could shift the answers but a more refined scoring system would show only minor differences (in my case).
I'm not cured!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 20:58:51 GMT
kiwihelen thanks by the way for the link to this questionaire really interesting re- the exercise ( of your above post )what sort would be best for "regulating " if thats the right word ??
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Post by sherry on Apr 27, 2011 21:24:06 GMT
KIWIHELEN,
I have my own sofa, never mind a chair and it's MINE!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 21:28:49 GMT
Everyone is different. I read the book "the out of synch child" after reading "too loud, too bright, too fast, too tight" - both these books deal with sensory integration issues, of which dyslexia is part.
I then did a whole heap of observational trials on myself and learned the following things:
Swimming does the most amazing things for reducing my audiohypersensitivity and making me more agile. According to what I read this is because I have a touch hyposensitivity and the movement of water gives a great deal of tactile input. Also, the resistance of the water against my joints fires my deep joint proprioceptors (the nerve organs that let us know the orientation of our limbs), improving the agility. Still haven't worked out why it reduces my sensitivity to loud noises, but I am not complaining!
The kind of irregular jaring that mountainbiking gives fires off my proprioceptors and results in me being far more coordinated and seems to enhance my peripheral vision. However the regular jaring of a trampoline just messes with my head and gives me a headache!
Lifting/carrying loads with my upper body, particularly the pressure put on by resistance activity (carrying heavy shopping bags), speeds up my reaction times. Again, this is the proprioception thing.
My ideal exercise programme would be: 20 minutes cycling 40 minutes of swimming lengths 30 minutes of free and resistance based weights 30 minutes of yoga/pilates 30 minutes of cycling
This done 5 x per week would probably "cure" much of my dyspraxia. Pity I don't have the time!
But reading this makes me think I need to do some planning to get some of it in place.
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