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Post by jan on Oct 21, 2013 7:38:45 GMT
My current theory has it that the world is organised and run by people at the opposite end of the personality spectrum from us. They have made it complicated, limiting, narrow and hard to fit into if you're not like them. They need schools to turn out phalanxes of identical people to fit this tightly organised system. We just don't fit into their plan. If we ruled the world ... well, it would be more interesting, anyway. definitely - but also maybe a tad more chaotic - but the positive would be we def would have to get rid of the nucleuer weapons then - couldn't have that button around anywhere - one of us would be bound to press it by accident
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Post by jan on Oct 21, 2013 6:57:41 GMT
I don't know how I came to be doing it but I use my tongue to effectively 'drum' and 'beatbox' inside my mouth. It is almost completely invisible/inaudible to other people in the room which is handy when you don't want anyone knowing you're a loon. I do forget myself occasionally and start finger drumming on my mouse/desk/table edge; accentuated by delays/lag/my own impatience usually. I try not to foot tap/leg bounce because it's highly visible and a dead give away that 'something aint quite right' I suppose the tongue is a fairly large muscle so as daft as it sounds, prolly burns a few calories i an going to restrain myself from commenting on your 'muscular tongue' you may find lot more female members answering your posts now though
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Post by jan on Oct 21, 2013 6:42:36 GMT
Sounds awesome. What are we doing with our sprogs tho? bring them with us - home school them - they'd learn so much more and have far less hangups, issues and unhealthy addictions.
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 21:54:40 GMT
i did this test - but found some of the questions confusing to answer (just for a change ) my result was ISFP - but am not sure i believe this is correct cos in job bit says i would like working with data and spread sheets - which would be my absolute worst nightmare !!!! and to me a spread sheet may as well be written in japanese and means nothing to me and also i have no desire whatsoever to learn to understand them - to me they are pointless!!! and data i have huge , huge problems with and avoid at all costs as well so can't see how this test is accurate unless the questions i found confusing i answered wrong - cos some of them didn't make sense and some just made ME want to ask a question about the question oh and see you got intuitive - i am hugely intuitive - in fact sometimes think my intuition is only part of my brain that works - but i didn't get it on mine am pissed off now
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 20:31:53 GMT
got madness 'our house ' going in my head now will think of that every time one of you posts now aaaagh
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 19:52:06 GMT
so funny grim - sorry but thinking about you spending 4 hours cleaning up after an hours work really appeals to my sense of humour prob cos is just kind thing that i would do thank god i don't own a sander - but if i ever buy one i will try and think of you (maybe should change your user name to dennis )
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 17:52:40 GMT
hya @almostrelieved welcome to the forum - i know it has been a huge help for me finding others struggling with same issues in life and others on here say the same, good luck on tuesday hopefully you'l be changing your name to relieved and diagnosed sooner than later xx (ps remember to arm yourself with all the relevant helpful stuff off posts on here or from main page on site my memory so bad can't even think now to put here for you (even though have lived on here for nearly a year ) someone will prob come and advise before tuesday so don't worry if your not sure
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 17:44:48 GMT
If you want some other ideas, Kevin Robert's "Movers Dreamers and Risk-Takers" has some. His ideas would need to be adapted for your primary school child but his amusing book may seed some helpful strategies. It will also give you some fodder for helping your child in higher education. www.EmpowerADD.org , he's also on facebook and has a blog - address to that still with my notes www.kevinjroberts.net.
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 16:13:18 GMT
i knew you were serious to be honest i would be well up for this - on the condition - if i may ask for a condition (seriously ) that we had a (very) good therapist (cos so many are shit !) living among us to help us through the inevitable conflicts that would come up
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 15:31:20 GMT
In your honour Jan, I have become the cheeky one, tis a better name and suits me I could be cheeky B now if we ever form a hip hop band. So shall we rock the world, set up a centre for retreat and learning centre in Portugal/France? Had the idea while writing on here other night , we just buy a bit of cheap land, start with yurts and a big communal outdoor kitchen in the shade and people come and stay to chill or learn and get support. Be themselves without feeling self conscious or anxious like on the other world We could get good at workshops and training and become a space for professional learning and also earning from that Xx am so touched and chuffed that you have changed your name - and in my honour XX - though stick to cheekybuddha - cos cheeky b in wales means something not so nice Am lovin your idea to rock the world - old school though - i don't do hip hop i love love love yurts have always wanted one but as i don't drive has never been feasable should prob warn you - i can't cook though - and only speak english (and slang ) so if thats no prob - then when we going xx
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 10:43:06 GMT
happy 'one month' anniversary dan is it me not remembering ? - have followed your posts from when you joined and don't remember you mentioning giving up (or as alan carr would say - stopping ) smoking? completely changes everything don't you think ? depending how long you've smoked and how addicted you are etc maybe give yourself a bit of a break ? do'n't want to encorage you to smoke but trying new meds,young baby teehting and stopping smoking at same time - isn't that hard on yourself? have you tried patches ? jj seemed to find them really helpful for her mood as well as the giving up smoking. by the way - what happened at work ?
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Post by jan on Oct 20, 2013 9:57:33 GMT
I've not tried them and I would be surprised if you would be able to get them - reason is that there are are so many restrictions on what you can eat and what you can take and some of the interactions are extremely dangerous - I think I've read some can kill you but not sure. Also there's something about them being irreversible - not quite sure what that means but doesn't sound nice I think they're reserved for people who've tried everything else and there's no where else to go other than electroconvulsive therapy I've not checked any of this, so the details might be a bit wrong, but the gist is right What you need is medication for adhd xxxxx i've read up on it and yeah there is few things that you can't eat and stuf f en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenelzine# Indications still sound like an option worth looking at though - can't remember if is on that wiki thread or on another one i looked up about it that says works well with people with avpd (who it also says are often resistant to taking meds ). I get what your saying that medication would help my adhd and know you aren't saying it in a 'i know whats best for you tone ' but i feel that its worth exploring other options (for me ) the adhd meds don't seem to help the whole symptom list going on what people say about their experience and this one sounds like it does. I don't want to have to end up taking loads different meds. in fact , even though am posting about this particular med - actually don't really want to take ANY meds at all am just feeling desperate for something to help at mo i think would love to manage my symptoms more holistically - which have managed in past - but can never seem to keep the whole process going as the weather changing , my daughter having a crisis, my hormones attacking me - i dunno - something always pops up to fuck the routine up ! anyway suppose its irrelevant as the chances of persuading a doctor to give me it are probably nil
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Post by jan on Oct 19, 2013 17:21:32 GMT
i'd bite your hand off to get at the bloody button if i had to - no question !!!
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 21:47:25 GMT
hooray chris got there in the end love a happy ending oh dear - bit previous that was then sorry to hear your not feeling so good - been wondering why you havn't been to support group maybe try next month if your feeling any better hopefully you'l get back on the med that worked soon ( and get your costs re embursed from them - though they can never make up for all the stress can they
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 21:35:52 GMT
thanks jj xx i'l do my best to try and take that in x Edit: nearly forgot - I've always looked at the MAOIs and thought they're what I needed... why havn't you had them then ? are they hard to get from doctor? what i read they sound perfect for our condition(s) (and dizzynerd it said they work for avpd have you tried them?)
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 19:50:29 GMT
Actually, now this thread's come up again - how is everyone's SAD - do you have it? Asking cos I don't have it ATM - I'm on buproprion - wonder if it's that or just that it's retreated a bit cos it has been quite bright and not cold .... feeling like i've got it - but havn't been out today - have had my lamp on though dunno - have for def had a period of mania/hypermania can never rem which is bipolar 2 - all summer - since april - been out and about , social anxiety 95% gone, eating less, sleeping less, waking up wide awake at 5 - like a switch flicked me on , rapid speech, - - - - but all seemed to start changing about week before the conference - - - definitely was affected by lack of light in the hotel i think and have been anxious and paranoid since got back and isolating and little bit depressed but more just feeling flat so think the sad is def at me - but do have man flu so that don't help been reading up on avpd that dizzynerd mentioned and am identifying with lot of it - apart from would never say i've actually been shy - more insecure -so dunno really. have been looking at med called Phenelzine have you heard of it or tried it (anybody ?)
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 13:14:24 GMT
as a recovering alcoholic as well as an adhd 'er i have been practicing 12 steps for many years now and have found that making amends is good for me - with regard to you apologising - will it make you feel better if you do? - even if its not accepted graciously will you feel better knowing you have swept your side of the street? saying that when was having bit of a meltdown at conference last week was ordering a drink at bar and every time asked barman if he could go to the other bar and get what i wanted he kept changing his mind and saying 'oh no actually don't think we do have it' - when he'd just said they did - i came out with - 'basically your just a lazy fuckin bastard and you can't be bothered in it ,so just do me a fuckin coke - ice and lemon !!! got my coke - minus the lemon - enough biterness in room already i think liverpool bit far to go and apologise now though
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 9:13:32 GMT
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Post by jan on Oct 18, 2013 7:19:05 GMT
Well - today has been good so far... felt much better. I did take the meds last night but either I had something else going on or I've got used to them... Had a look at the article Mary - I think I might invest in a white noise machine for bed and setup a full on routine. I may go back into taking lunch to see the sun once in a while and get better at walking the dog first thing in the morning.. (hang on I've been here before! lol) good to hear your on the up dan (just for today and all that ) havn't noticed CM'S post but i got a dawn simulator clock from www.lumie.com at begining of year and its had an amazing effect on regulating my sleep. it has sunrise and sunset settings - and white noise and waves option to fall asleep to - they sometimes have reconditioned ones and they are much cheaper (mine was £30 off) and you can have it on 30 day trial. at the conference on first night i set it wrong and volume didn't decrease and when i was snoozing away happily it kept the others awake
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Post by jan on Oct 17, 2013 18:21:51 GMT
i'm blue (often ) my mums were - god shame on me can't rem now - different colours anyway , one hazel - other green think was - like david bowie's
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Post by jan on Oct 17, 2013 9:47:39 GMT
gotta buy a ticket to win remember thanks for all your good wishes folks wish could say am feeling better - but alas feel worse proper man flu shivers the lot and weak as a kitten even though loved meeting you lot think the conference has affected me negatively - i am completely drained - and feel like don't want company again for at least 6 months wish i wasn't like this - (no offence to any of you meant ) found this - explains why feeling like i am now - i really had my sleep and anxiety sorted past months - by using my clock and getting up and going to bed at same time etc but had been on slippery slope again before conference because of anxiety around it and was very manic and then when there amount of sleep we had - for me - was ridicilous - but seemed ok for everyone else - i just couldn't function at all and affected my concentration, mood, everything feel better now know whats going on What is "Social Rhythm Therapy"? Bipolar disorder is in part a disturbance of circadian rhythmicity: energy "on" in the middle of the night, or "off" in the morning in depressed phases, for example. Almost all BPII patients will experience hypomanic symptoms (remember, this often has the form of severe anxiety/agitation, difficulty concentrating, irritability) after sustained sleep deprivation, sometimes with as little as a single night’s interrupted sleep. These features have led to the hypothesis that "anchoring" a patient’s circadian rhythm might have mood stabilizing effects. The Western Psychiatric Clinic has been testing this hypothesis with an adjunctive treatment for bipolar disorder they call Social Rhythm TherapyFrank. Daily routines such as time of awakening, time of rising, time of first meal, time going to bed, time of going to sleep are kept very consistent in this treatment.
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Post by jan on Oct 17, 2013 7:58:44 GMT
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Post by jan on Oct 17, 2013 6:37:16 GMT
i'm shocked my daughter was soooo bad during those years - bordering on psychosis at times and the pysch knew this as i was on the phone to them in desperation all the time through the whole 4 year period and we were told categorically that there was no other medication available apart from capsule form !!! things could of been so different for her if we'd been told/offered an alternative and if i'd been computer literate and found out !! i'm reeling !
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 21:34:45 GMT
manson88 thanks xx am hibernating for few days and then be ready for world again (and the crack - imagine irish accent xx )
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 21:10:03 GMT
we were told medicine is only available in states - but what i mean is could she just of had different brand - tablets like you've got and broke them up ?
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 20:53:33 GMT
foot note they were recovering alcoholic i remember being said
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 19:04:23 GMT
thanks CM your such a sweetie - will follow all that advise (for once in my life ) and fair play dd has been amazing - tea , dinner, shopping , cleaning - may be part of my condition today - the shock all of sudden though as been thinking about the conference and conversation with adhd clinic this morn and suddenly thought - she never took meds when seeing pshyc at cahms for 4 years because it was firstly ritalin then concerta and was capsules and she couldn't swallow it (she has gag reflex thing and would projectile vomit them across room ) and were told she couldn't open it up but then got strattera - another capsule - which could be opened up - but she couldn't handle the taste of it in anything - she very sensitive with lots stuff - feel of material on her skin - all sorts and being young and depressed (and adhd ) she couldn't make herself so we gave up in the end as was causing so much stress on top of school stress etc and was just too much!!! now thinking back over weekend - everyones meds were small tablets that could be chopped up ? is this new since 2008 ? we were told there was no other format for the meds available
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 18:35:50 GMT
did he ring dan ? hope so - have spent so much time waiting for people like that to ring - and they havn't and then when have got around to ringing them they totally blank and forgotten me
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 18:26:10 GMT
oh that' s a relief another reason to be grateful for being female
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Post by jan on Oct 16, 2013 18:04:27 GMT
gotta buy a ticket to win remember thanks for all your good wishes folks wish could say am feeling better - but alas feel worse proper man flu shivers the lot and weak as a kitten even though loved meeting you lot think the conference has affected me negatively - i am completely drained - and feel like don't want company again for at least 6 months wish i wasn't like this - (no offence to any of you meant )
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