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Post by andy12345 on Jul 1, 2011 15:19:03 GMT
Well, I could only empathise by saying.....................
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Post by andy12345 on Jul 1, 2011 2:36:51 GMT
Ryan I can't claim any constant pain, the problem is that I am self limiting my activities because I can get damaged quite easily and I feel weak-ish. I'm lucky really, not to suffer any acute severe pain or even chronic mild but constant pain. the flare up after overdoing it, is the achey part but its restrictive aching twinginess more than harsh pain. Thats why my subject line is as it is..... ie no diagnosis because no pain... However, the degradation feels progressive so it must be something diagnosable and not just lack of exercise. I get a crunchy neck for many years......lol I hope you get better. That twisted spine doesn't help you one bit, does it? Pain killers will help but they can give you false security and enable more damage. It's a two edged sword. Thanks for the advice.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 30, 2011 13:35:43 GMT
This is something that drives me crazy-er from time to time (mentally) In 1999, when on dialupgrrrrrrrrrrr (18MB download per hour.....) I started suffering some feeling of spinal ailment. I felt more limited in motion, although I thought to myself maybe it was just lack of exercise. At the time I had a cd based encyclopedia and looked up many subjects. I looked at arthritis types, rheumatoid, ankylosing spondlylitis, osteo etc but no further. My conclusion was that I did not seem to have enough symptoms to be arthritic. 12 years on, I still don't have enough symptoms, in my opinion. I'm not a doctor visiting type person, as one sneer from them is enough to put me off, or to erm get a little bit agitated, I'm sure you know the sort of thing.......... During the 12 years I've suffered some stupid back injuries, due to rash, spontaneous behaviour. Rather than having suffered the injuries due to the trauma, I'm tempted to say that I'm predisposed or more vulnerable to the damage that can be caused, as other people don't seem to suffer the same way. I feel that I can't load my spine much at all, say 50KG barbell is enough to give me serious delayed onset pains, twingy/nervy etc. (usually next day and lasting about 3-5 days, in rare events, maybe 14 days) It sounds silly, but I feel that my discs are perhaps somewhat thinned or already structurally damaged, although I have no idea why. Also, I have symmetrical, that is both arms,hands and elbows issues of carpal tunnel, guyon canal and cubital tunnel syndrome. www.eorthopod.com/content/carpal-tunnel-syndromewww.eorthopod.com/content/guyons-canal-syndromewww.eorthopod.com/content/cub...unnel-syndromewww.eorthopod.com/content/radial-tunnel-syndromewww.eorthopod.com/content/lat...s-tennis-elbowNone are harsh enough to be given a diagnosis, but are a bit impairing as holding screwdrivers or hammers leads to shocking feelings sometimes, or a burning dull ache, whilst gripping. Leaning on palms, looking out of a window creates a dull burning ache up to shoulders etc. Lengthy post, but there is not a short version. I'm off to do some web questing to see what I can turn up. When I see any pro weightlifters lifting/squatting 200/300KG roundabouts I know that my spine would just fold upon seeing that, if it had eyes........ Anyway. any knowledge would be appreciated.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 25, 2011 19:32:03 GMT
you should really go for a wiki masters'
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 25, 2011 16:04:41 GMT
.J is bright and when in front of new people always responds well...that is the nature of "survivable" with ADHD
No one likes to make a fuss, unless they are attention seekers.
The guarded nature of many human psychologies, seems to guarantee that not many will have an idea of what the suffering person has tried in the past....to deal with said suffering.
Sometimes, you'll never know as the person will have faded away before any understanding is achieved or desired.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 25, 2011 14:29:08 GMT
Random, your statement is familiar to my feeling as well. It seems that you have to shout and jump around if you want to be noticed as having a problem.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 25, 2011 14:25:32 GMT
3403458 5£%£50s';jafap4f0f4u 4f$F$F f94304f90uYes$%$^$^ £$£$as£$£%£its£$%£%£%^before the optic nerve£$£$etc£$£$and therefore3$"%"%$£ 5pervades£$£$"$
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 20:13:44 GMT
The optical migraine is meant to be pain free. Yours does not sound exactly like what I tried to describe although it's damn hard to describe it, during my short questing this morning, the word fractals also was mentioned. Considering how unfit I am, I should be more predisposed to migraines, yet only had one pain migraine when I was about 8. i must be doing something right o.O
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 18:58:50 GMT
You're really on a mission phil. Is that what it takes to get something done properly?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 18:57:56 GMT
All I can say is the words I used to describe it to myself was shimmering pulsating, kaleidoscope etc that does not go away with eyes closed and pervades through both eyes, I used to put potato waffles in the toaster as well as turkey burgers.....the oil wasn't too good though as it fell through..
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 18:00:58 GMT
So, I've apparently been having these, but so rarely. Only about 6 in 5 years. I only managed to find out early this morning after my 6th attack. It's always the same, a central effect, no pain, no body symptoms, only optical, and I was aware of the patterns whilst my eyes were closed. Anyone else have optical migraines? Anyone suffer migraines in general? Symptoms A shimmering/fractal/kaleidoscope (take your pick) effect etc that does not go away with eyes closed and pervades through both eyes. This is it actually. www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73#
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 14:43:21 GMT
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 24, 2011 1:39:38 GMT
What! you think I'm right? OMG, I've never been so insulted in all my.......eh!?!?!!?!? It's not very often I'm told I'm right lol
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 23, 2011 21:41:17 GMT
I'm wonderin how many adhd females have pmdd, or more tendency for it, versus standard pms. It hasnt' been raised on here until the OP mentioned it.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 23, 2011 15:41:41 GMT
I've come to realise that I really did sod all at school, except almost pretend to take info in and become "alert" when teachers were going to notice me for not paying attention lol. Bar some very easy things, that required little thought,. homework was somewhat reprioritised versus computer gaming, which really was much much more fun.
I was very quiet in lessons, I would not really put my hand up in case I was "noticed" and most times I didn't have an answer anyway. Useless, truly. Even writing this makes me grimace. I 'm going to have to do something about it....
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 23:35:26 GMT
What about medicinal prescription for indian buffets once per month. Now thats some serious medication.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 22:14:45 GMT
I've now gone through 492 boxes of tissues since I read your post.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 22:03:08 GMT
Ditzy, that's more than likely why there are typical and atypical antidepressants. Serotonin ones were the first to be licenced. "If" I've been reading correctly... My gp's training seemed to cause them to respond with the standard typical antidepressant, within a few seconds. The mission was to get me out the door as soon as possible..... When they realise it's more complicated, they can't handle it, until I wrote some letters.......explaining myself better.
Phil, is a gym prescription literally what it means?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 21:19:51 GMT
whatyousay?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 19:13:10 GMT
All I want to do is upload my mind, without the annoying bits, to the internet. Then I would be more authentic.
Unfocused and unforged!
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 13:52:29 GMT
Fair enough, but optomistic did not say it turned him into a zombie. What is RSA? I do appreciate your stance on any medications. I am not taking anything myself and have fears to experiment. However, he has already been on venf so at least he knows what could work for him if he was interested. Also, don't forget, you don't need to take the standard doses of any drug, you can always take less to experiment and help understanding. There may be a sweeter, safer point than with what he was taking. ______ OohShiny, Please don't take me so literally on the half serious comment of grinding up the medication. :/ _____ I hadn't quite written him off, but I am a bit concerned (in an internet onliney sort of way) that whilst he may be okay unmedicated (ie he is causing grief, but he is apparently "safe" and mentally consistent), who know's how far it may go one day? I don't know why you're surprised at my statement, I'm only human, to a degree. ______ Fair enough, but what about those who do not experience any difference whatsoever after 8 months of typical anti depressant medication? I was on them for 8 months, from 10mg to 40mg does citalopram, 20mg fluoxetine, but stopped them suddenly with zero symptoms. I know they have a lower body effect though.......groan..but my depression feeling was not changed in the slightest. Surely, they should feel different somehow? However, it is known fact that these drugs do work for those who are compatible (the only suitable word I can think of) The medical industry like to make it easy for the consumer to understand anti depressants so they used to act like taking any AD was like increasing the quantity, ie topping up. However, with dopaminergic drugs (legal or otherwise) there are several possible effects to alter the dopamine quantity or excitability of neurons, but I'm not sure if serotoninergic (??) drugs have more than one way of effect (ie other than re-uptake inhibition) or not. Have you happened to research this? Where did my post go? (lol) What SSRI did you take exactly?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 22, 2011 13:11:50 GMT
If a pharmacist takes the refusal stance based on the outward appearance of someone with adhd/awkward behaviours, then they are going to be very hit and miss with their success rate of refusing the ones that don't fit their category of "safe" to dispense to.
JR1985, that is mad innit?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 22:10:58 GMT
Why do you get refused, ditzy?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 22:06:45 GMT
QUOTE There is evidence that excessive computer gaming can cause hallucination type reactions, caused by the lack of sleep and intense unremitting concentration! I suggested this to my sons carer's at the Priory and they virtually laughed in my face. As a person with rather a large amounts of gaming hours and some reasonably long sessions (see below), I never suffered anything like that. For about 3 months, although it felt longer, I was working, but also doing a college course one day a week. I would get up about 5pm goto work, get back about midnight, stay up all night playing an amiga game or 2(dune 2 for those of you who do such things) then I would go to the college thingy, get home about 3pm, go to work and get back about 11pm (friday) When I got home, I would be asleep within about 10 mins because, after 30-32 hours, I was usually knackered. This may not seem a great deal, but I'm quite a low energy person and I felt that years of burning the candle at both ends, really fried me. From about 1998, I could not do that anymore and 23 hours was my limit, now it's gone down to 18 hours or so, unless I'm doing something exciting, and I'm asleep again. When I'm 60 I'll probably be awake 1 hour a day and sleeping 17. For those who may have an underlying, borderline potential for hallucinations, it may be more possible. BOO QUOTE The more and more entrenched this pattern/behaviour became, the harder it was to convince my family I had any other motive except to hurt or be difficult or purposefully defiant, so mum was always wary, and I was always defensive and angry! and it became as much a power struggle as anything else, and probably totally overshadowed all the real stuff that was going on Same here, I'm so easily stirred and my mother really drives me insane. It's due to both sides having personality defects, although I consider myself more logical pffffftttttt (famous last words) As for optimistic's son.... Until he is medicated with venlaxafine again or such that alters him, there's going to be trouble. I can't believe I'm posting about venlaxafine again (done 2 other threads already) !! I barely noticed it before, now it's in the front of my mind. As far as I understand typical anti-depressants (serotonin related, usually),they are, for some reason, meant to take a while to take effect. I'm not sure why this does not work the same way with adhd drugs or any other drug that has quick effect. (Something to think about) However, your son had a quick response to venf. and this may be more likely due to the fact it also works like strattera(atomoxetine), or a bit of both. Anyway, maybe you should grind some up into his food with a pestle and mortar....... I wish It was a joking matter, but seriously, he is unwell and needs to be fixed and he's not going to do it himself. I also need to ask why he doesn't like the effects' of the drugs, after all, he is more human with them, why would he not be happy to be more co-operative? Also, is it possible that he could track this website and your posts' Most people have very little security on their home pc's.....passwords are usually saved to the browser or can be keylog read etc if he has such paranoia. Obviously, it shouldn't matter if he reads as, this is not about slagging him off, but trying to understand and help him..
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 21:16:24 GMT
Was she rude, or just doing her job, and avoiding any £1,000,000 fines and 6000 year jail terms that pharmacists' can be given?
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 21:15:09 GMT
I hope you've found a reasonable quality ISP, goosey.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 11:31:15 GMT
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 21, 2011 3:08:42 GMT
Such is the complexity of humanity, there's no undo button or save snapshot. Silly humanity!!
Venlaxafine is classed as a medicine that does the job of atomoxetine (as an SNRI) and a typical anti-depressant (namely SSRI) giving it the power of a SSNRI. That's a right combo. Drugs are drugs though, it's always about finding the sweet spot between good and bad symptoms.
Aromatase reduction is one thing, aromatase activity reduction is another, ie reducing the bang per buck of aromatisation.
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 20, 2011 19:16:48 GMT
Or you could go the zoladex route, but you'll have to have some testosterone added back(some of which will naturally be aromatised to oestrogen) and personally it seems a pretty strong method of control. Dropping bodyweight (less weight, less aromatase) and/ or finding a safe nutrient that is clinically proven to reduce the activity of aromatase will help (a bit - ie an unspecified amount, possibly worthless, possibly helpful.....YMMV) I expect Kiwihelen has understanding on this matter. You could also pm haydreamer, who I seem to remember was connected with someone with PMDD and was on zoladex. Funnily enough, bodybuilders + excess testosterone supplementation without- an oestrogen control = nightmare, bloating, water retention, moods, acne and the other symptoms of "excessive" oestrogen levels. Hence why they usually take an aromatase inhibitor or suffer gynecomastia cell proliferation/masses as well. Oh, the prob with zoladex is that is drops oestradiol through the floor. It'll give you a real understanding of what excess oestradiol does to you, but you'll also be effectively postmenopausal and suffer the deficiency symptoms. It all depends on your level of monstrousness in that week before menstruation and the fact you wrote about this, suggests the suffering is high. www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/depression/pmsorpmdd_000011.htmThe main benefit of weight loss is that there are no side effects to it... Edit and its possible that zoladex is not used much. You would need to speak to a doctor/endocrinologist for the goss, as they say. www.studd.co.uk/pms.php (check his about page for his credibility) You could also avoid phyto- and xeno-oestrogen containing foods as these "theoretically" add to your overall levels. It's a minefield really! " Why now? Has this been happening on a smooth scale of intensity over the years? . .
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Post by andy12345 on Jun 19, 2011 20:41:33 GMT
Why would they be able to understand something that they may have to a certain level and have therefore adapated to it?
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